Shell less egg,soft egg, not really the problem it is the were and what that I need help with!

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We have been getting 9-10 eggs a day out of 11 golden comets. They are 5 months old and yes in the beginning I did get some soft ones but those girls caught on quick. I have been finding one egg in the sand under the roost for the past 5 days. The first one was soft. I went out this morning right after day break and there was my egg in the sand with poo on it and it was cold. that tells me that it is happening in the night. Now today I only got 6 eggs. Which was no big deal the girls have been producing plenty for their age.This afternoon I took my 5 new chicks out for an adventure and to introduce them to the flock. I sat their little run up about 4 feet away from the flock and my chair while I was sitting there one of my 5 month old squatted and layed a soft shell egg, Which was immediately devoured by the entire flock! I was watching her and I thought she might be egg bound,then out came the soft egg. She started squatting again and I grabbed her and put her in a nest. She just came right back out to the same spot and layed a shell less egg! And again it was eaten up. If this behavior persist what should I do and how long should I let it go on?
 
I am having the same problem. It doesn't happen all the time, just once in awhile and was lucky enough to catch it today. Soft egg and they all eat it right away. What does it mean???
 
Well if they are first time layers sometimes it will happen but usually the hen gets the hang of it in a week or two. But I have never had one lay in the run or a shell less egg to my knowledge! If it is an older hen she needs calcium which they get from oyster shell or feeding them their own shells crushed. which is what I do and I give them oats and yogurt too. Oats help promote larger eggs. I did notice a difference when I started feeding them oats.
 
Wow,

I see three "issues" 1. egg eating, 2. laying outside the nesting box and 3. soft shells.

they are inter-related though. Perhaps if the eggs weren't shell-less they wouldn't eat them..but it is a habit that you don't want them to get into IMO. So let's think for the moment they are just disposing of the easy to get excellent food.

Laying in the wrong place...maybe too because of the soft shell....she doesn't get the normal signals... Or does she not want to foul (should I say fowl?) the nesting box. Most likely the former, it must feel very different to be missing the shell. If I understood correctly also the hen you watched laid two eggs in very close succession, both without a shell. (there wouldn't most likely be time and calcium to lay two shelled eggs.....one with and one without would possibly be a more expected occurrance with such close together eggs.

Lastly soft shells. Because I had this problem with a hen I have since culled....I write a variation of this in a lot of posts -- so I'm now lazy, installed it in my charts and quotes page and usually cut-and-paste


Shell-less eggs. I think that there can be a lot of causes for the chicken to loose the ability to create a good shell.

Do they get enough calcium? Free choice oyster shell in a container is good, and crushing the shells of the eggs you use and feeding them back to your flock is good. My chooks prefer egg shells to oyster shells BTW.

Apple Cider vinegar in their water (1TBSP per 1gallon of water) - helps the chicken's digestive system absorb nutrients -- including calcium, it has to do with the pH factor.

Vitamin D3 helps the hen with egg shell production too. I bought a bottle of tablets at WalMart and crushed up one. put it in with some feed and the contents of the shell-less egg (she was making membranes but no shell) - so vitamin D3, and more protein and good quality layer feed with the most calcium of the available feeds, They tended to gobble that down.

Old age, and other factors can interfere with shell production if you think your hens may be approaching the end of their laying period.


Should have added that I pulverized the eggshells in the food processor, so I had a lot of calcium carbonate powder. For my hen, the shell problem was fixed within days...however, she did from time to time need the special treatment to maintain good shells.

Maybe break the problem into three parts and see if getting strong shells again will automatically solve the other two issues....
good luck with it.

Maybe if they are producing too frequent eggs...a little time in darkness could reset the egg clock. And the drop in egg production could be entirely due to egg eating.
 
Wow,

I see three "issues" 1. egg eating, 2. laying outside the nesting box and 3. soft shells.

they are inter-related though. Perhaps if the eggs weren't shell-less they wouldn't eat them..but it is a habit that you don't want them to get into IMO. So let's think for the moment they are just disposing of the easy to get excellent food.

Laying in the wrong place...maybe too because of the soft shell....she doesn't get the normal signals... Or does she not want to foul (should I say fowl?) the nesting box. Most likely the former, it must feel very different to be missing the shell. If I understood correctly also the hen you watched laid two eggs in very close succession, both without a shell. (there wouldn't most likely be time and calcium to lay two shelled eggs.....one with and one without would possibly be a more expected occurrance with such close together eggs.

Lastly soft shells. Because I had this problem with a hen I have since culled....I write a variation of this in a lot of posts -- so I'm now lazy, installed it in my charts and quotes page and usually cut-and-paste


Shell-less eggs. I think that there can be a lot of causes for the chicken to loose the ability to create a good shell.

Do they get enough calcium? Free choice oyster shell in a container is good, and crushing the shells of the eggs you use and feeding them back to your flock is good. My chooks prefer egg shells to oyster shells BTW.

Apple Cider vinegar in their water (1TBSP per 1gallon of water) - helps the chicken's digestive system absorb nutrients -- including calcium, it has to do with the pH factor.

Vitamin D3 helps the hen with egg shell production too. I bought a bottle of tablets at WalMart and crushed up one. put it in with some feed and the contents of the shell-less egg (she was making membranes but no shell) - so vitamin D3, and more protein and good quality layer feed with the most calcium of the available feeds, They tended to gobble that down.

Old age, and other factors can interfere with shell production if you think your hens may be approaching the end of their laying period.


Should have added that I pulverized the eggshells in the food processor, so I had a lot of calcium carbonate powder. For my hen, the shell problem was fixed within days...however, she did from time to time need the special treatment to maintain good shells.

Maybe break the problem into three parts and see if getting strong shells again will automatically solve the other two issues....
good luck with it.

Maybe if they are producing too frequent eggs...a little time in darkness could reset the egg clock. And the drop in egg production could be entirely due to egg eating.

Thank you, She is new at this so it makes since she wouldn't get the urge to go to a nesting box. I am going to be keeping a real close eye on her. I wonder if I put a nite light in one of the boxes if the one that is dropping them from the roost will be able to see to go into the box. And stop dropping them on the floor!
 
Yet another reason why I am so glad I have sand in my coop! I have a hen that started laying at night from the roost. The eggs don't break when they hit the sand!
 
I found one hard egg and one soft shell egg this morning and they were both really warm laying in the sand under the roost. I was thinking about putting a night light in one of the nesting boxes so they can see were they are! I was out there before the sun this morning and it wasn't soon enough!
 

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