Should I Fill My Run With Ex-Horse-Manure Soil?

Henrik Petersson

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Okay, here's the deal:

We've had chickens for years. They were largely free-ranging, but spent a significant amount of time in their run. A fairly "normal" run; mostly soil that was at first covered in grass with the grass later disappearing completely; a few bushes woody enough for the chickens to be unable to destroy them; a small part of the ground consisting of solid rock.

This summer, we sold all chickens in order to take a break. In the upcoming spring, we'll get new ones.

A horse owner nearby has a huge pile of horse manure that's turned into very loose and fertile soil, and we have permission to take as much of it as we want. I'm thinking about putting some in the run for our next chickens.

More about the soil in our run: It roughly consists of two types. In one part of the run it's very "lumpy". It's sort of like tufts of grass, but with the actual grass removed. In the other part, the soil is one big flat "cake", and if the chickens scratch a hole in the cake, perfect dust-bathing soil is underneath. These two soil areas are separated by rocks and bushes, so you can do stuff with one of them without affecting the other.

I'm thinking about putting some of that ex-manure in the run. My idea is that such loose soil will be much more fun to scratch than the present one. (Our last chickens didn't do much scratching in the soil when they were penned up). Also, I'm thinking that the ex-manure is so nutrient-rich that it will draw bugs for the chickens to eat, and possibly even make plants grow better (though I suspect the chickens will eat any plants before they can grow at all).

Arguments against that:
- The ex-manure may be loose and scratchable now, but won't it also be flattened into a cake once the chickens have stepped on it 1000 times?
- It would be a shame to ruin aforementioned dust-bathing soil by putting other stuff on top. That's why I made a point of the soil being in two distinct areas - I could add ex-manure to only the area that doesn't lend itself to dust-bathing.
- It would be a real pain in the back to put the ex-manure into the coop! We'd have to go through the present, human-sized gate. Maybe any small pros aren't worth this con.
- As for the adding of nutrients, the chickens' own poop might do that perfectly fine.

I might be over-thinking this, but do y'all have any opinions on the subject?
 
I have filled in where chickens have dug holes with compost garden soil from bulk center. Same thing happened. Still have dust bath areas and made hard caked dirt. I just have mulch at this point and just go in and regrade it when necessary. The only reason I did it was because the chickens lowered the dirt level to leave gaps under the run frame. I was concerned predators might get in. So raised soil line with new compost. Mulched over that. I now have straw in for winter.
 
We have buried and folded out the metal netting, so we don't really have that need. However, the chickens have dug down a fair bit there, and it could be good to fill it up before they create a veritable tunnel to the outside.
 
:gigThe tunnel to the outside was my concern which prompted my action. I felt something might be able to slither or squeeze in that area. If I buried my frame that might help to as well as higher above ground. They would literally have to dig to China to create a tunnel out. :lau
 
Hmmm...what's your goal?
Making garden soil or just managing the chicken poop?

I lined my entire run with 1/2" HC to keep chicks in and to hold in the semi-deep litter I wanted to use to manage the poops/odors. My litter is mostly ramial wood chippings, the larger wood pieces is what really 'eats up' the poop nitrogen. Adding other more fragile dry plant matter helps too, but it breaks down fast.

Already composted horse manure would not help this situation, it'll just get compacted...tho if you grab some from the bottom of the pile you may get some organisms that will create a true composting deep litter faster.

They can still dig down to dust bathe.....they are master excavators, filling holes with anything other than rocks, pavers or concrete, will only slow them down infinitesimally.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/excavation-by-birds-a-word-of-warning.1086535/
 
Hmmm...what's your goal?
Making garden soil or just managing the chicken poop?
Enrichment for the chickens.

I lined my entire run with 1/2" HC to keep chicks in and to hold in the semi-deep litter I wanted to use to manage the poops/odors. My litter is mostly ramial wood chippings, the larger wood pieces is what really 'eats up' the poop nitrogen. Adding other more fragile dry plant matter helps too, but it breaks down fast.
What's HC?

Already composted horse manure would not help this situation, it'll just get compacted.
Ok, that's part of what I was wondering. So composted soil isn't "better" than any old soil, even though it is at present very loose? The consistency of this soil was what mostly made me interested in it. But it will turn compact and hard to scratch eventually?

They can still dig down to dust bathe.....they are master excavators, filling holes with anything other than rocks, pavers or concrete, will only slow them down infinitesimally.
Sure, but they don't seem to like to dust bathe in any kind of soil.
 
HC is hardware cloth. I find the more fine a soil i lay down the more compact it gets. I mix it with peat, mulch, dried leaves to prevent it from becoming so compact so quickly. Peat because it is better at removing ammonia from the manure.
 
Chickens love horse poop they’ll have a “Hay Day” picking out undigested grains. I have to add soil to my run every year where it all goes dunno. Something simple like creating a boarder with cut firewood works for me. Would mine dust bathe in dried poo? I suppose so if that’s all they had. But a chicken gonna do what a chicken’s gonna do. Best wishes
 

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