The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[The Moonshiner]

That's what I'm assuming. Its all I could get from what was said. I know OEGB call the splashes from the blue and fawn colors Sports.

OEGB, so glad I'm not into those.
I could get into real trouble with a breed that comes in 2.794 thousand varieties. And besides not sure there would be anything left to make.

 

[Fijifire]

You wont get fawn from most hatcheries. Look on eBay for hatching eggs for OEGB. I've gotten fawn crele from there. Fawn crele is just fawn silver duckwing with barbarring

I believe you are correct about khaki being the sport sorry for the confusion. Thank you for your help ill try ebay for the eggs.

 

[troyer]

Fawn works like blue. So you have normal black, fawn and khaki. Khaki is the sport. If blue is Bl/bl and splash is Bl/Bl then fawn is F/f and khaki is F/F. Those are not the right gene markers but are being used as a short cut here. Splash is the sport of blue and Khaki is the sport of Fawn.

Is fawn the same as dun?

 

[NagemTX]

Is fawn the same as dun?

I believe so. OEGB people just call it fawn as long as it's on a duckwing pattern.

Fawn crele.

Khaki crele.

 

[Egg Snatcher]

Is fawn the same as dun?

Yes

 

[Skyeknight]

here is the pics to show you the difference between Black Breasted Red and Wildtype, we will be using a Dutch bantam which is the closest bird in genes to the red jungle fowl

My apologies if this has already been asked or answered elsewhere. But Nicalandia mentioned in this post that Dutch bantams are the closest to red junglefowl genetically. I was wondering what your source(s) is on this? When I find promising studies they are behind a paywall, so I can't actually read and verify their results.

I am very interested in this since in the Netherlands it's basically impossible to get red junglefowl. Even if I could get them it's a genetic waste to interbreed the red jungefowl in Europe with "normal" chickens in my opinion. So If the closest thing to them is the very common Dutch bantam then that would open a lot of new possibilities for me.

 

[Amer]

My apologies if this has already been asked or answered elsewhere. But Nicalandia mentioned in this post that Dutch bantams are the closest to red junglefowl genetically. I was wondering what your source(s) is on this? When I find promising studies they are behind a paywall, so I can't actually read and verify their results.

I am very interested in this since in the Netherlands it's basically impossible to get red junglefowl. Even if I could get them it's a genetic waste to interbreed the red jungefowl in Europe with "normal" chickens in my opinion. So If the closest thing to them is the very common Dutch bantam then that would open a lot of new possibilities for me.

They aren't necessarily the closest genetically, but the color genotype is the same. I'd actually consider some gold duckwing gamefowl with slate legs to probably be closer genetically, however, there are so many types of gamefowl it would be hard to pin down which ones.

 

[Amer]

Of course, he means the wildtype color Dutch, also known as gold duckwing or light brown. Or whatever you call it in Europe.

 

[ChicksnMore]

Wanted to share pics of my project birds. I've been working on bantam Yokohama red shoulder for..I don't even remember how long now...lol. These have Yokohama, olandsk dwarf, oegb and serama in them now. Here's this years babies almost grown...forgive the sad cockerel tails, we're all molting here still!

Long ways to go til I have them right...but I'm enjoying them. This years babies are close to oegb in size.
I'm still struggling to remove random black feathers and correct or improve some other things.
Was hoping for advice on those stray black feathers. Some of my full Yokohama roos develop those too over time. I don't see that on the girls though, and the boys don't usually show them during the first year or two. My full yoko girls show more white as they age (mottling), and the boys sometimes start showing random black feathers. I'm having the same problem with my banties but on a larger scale. Should I breed only from roos that are at least a couple years old and show no black yet? Would that fix this? And do the hens genes play a role in this...and if so, how do I figure out which hens as I'm already using hens that aren't showing random blacks and I'm still getting those black feathers.

 

[Amer]

Wanted to share pics of my project birds. I've been working on bantam Yokohama red shoulder for..I don't even remember how long now...lol. These have Yokohama, olandsk dwarf, oegb and serama in them now. Here's this years babies almost grown...forgive the sad cockerel tails, we're all molting here still!View attachment 4243167View attachment 4243168View attachment 4243169View attachment 4243170
Long ways to go til I have them right...but I'm enjoying them. This years babies are close to oegb in size.
I'm still struggling to remove random black feathers and correct or improve some other things.
Was hoping for advice on those stray black feathers. Some of my full Yokohama roos develop those too over time. I don't see that on the girls though, and the boys don't usually show them during the first year or two. My full yoko girls show more white as they age (mottling), and the boys sometimes start showing random black feathers. I'm having the same problem with my banties but on a larger scale. Should I breed only from roos that are at least a couple years old and show no black yet? Would that fix this? And do the hens genes play a role in this...and if so, how do I figure out which hens as I'm already using hens that aren't showing random blacks and I'm still getting those black feathers.

They're so cute! I could instantly recognize them as Yokohamas so you must be doing something right.