I was at a swap over the weekend and some guy had some turkens for sale, he tried to tell me that the ones with the bow-tie are hens and the ones without are roos. I could clearly tell that they were roos cause of the red on their heads and their tail feathers and so on. they were about half gorwn. I was going to argue with him some, but I didn't see the need too, had more swap to see. thought I would tell you all for a good laugh.