Verm-X versus Wazine + a stronger dewormer

[Farmgirl Lily]

Yesterday I was shocked to find that one of my hens had worms. She was six years old, not laying anymore, and by the time I figured out what was going on, it was too late to remedy. She passed away in the night and has been taken care of. But what about my other six hens? None of them are acting the way my late hen was, and they don't have any symptoms of worms. I have had chickens for at least 10 years and I have never dewormed them. However, SHOULD I deworm them, just in case? The rub here is that these girls are getting old, laying tolerably well, but are mostly around because they are my pets. SO, do I spend the money of at least $25 to deworm, plus miss out on several weeks of eggs? My main question here is: do I really need to deworm the other hens, or just keep an eye on them? Would this Verm-X that I've heard people talking about on BYC do the same thing as Wazine + a second, stronger dewormer combined? Egg production wise, they're not worth the money, but emotionally for me, I am considering hanging onto them for at least this year. I might not mind the expense of the Verm-X so much if it would do the same as the Wazine and another dewormer combined, but still be able to keep the eggs.
Any thoughts or advice is greatly appreciated!

 

[dawg53]

http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2012/01/ve...eal-evidence-to-show-it-is-safe-or-effective/

 

[Verm-XUSA]

Interesting article; Too bad the author didn't bother to try it or find out why the studies are not allowed to be published but merely states who knows if it works!

Verm-X is made with chemical free with non-GMO ingredients. Both British and US laws prevent the publishing of such test results unless the products are sold as pharmaceuticals. I wonder why that is so? The simple answer is follow the money - Monsanto - Merick - Libby - Johnson & Johnson and all of the big drug and chemical companies that do not want any competition. The FDA application fee which gets the registrant nothing except a number is over $150,000 per item. It takes years of expensive work, literally millions of dollars to get one new drug approved by the FDA and on the market.


If you are comfortable, putting poisons in your animals that will kill them if you give them to much go for it. However, there is a reason the makers of Wazine have the warning "Not for chickens producing eggs for human consumption" on the bottle. Lastly for those that recommend putting Ivermectin on the poultry you may want to contact the manufacturer and ask if they condone the practice and what is the recommended dosing.

 

[dawg53]

Interesting article; Too bad the author didn't bother to try it or find out why the studies are not allowed to be published but merely states who knows if it works!

Verm-X is made with chemical free with non-GMO ingredients. Both British and US laws prevent the publishing of such test results unless the products are sold as pharmaceuticals. I wonder why that is so? The simple answer is follow the money - Monsanto - Merick - Libby - Johnson & Johnson and all of the big drug and chemical companies that do not want any competition. The FDA application fee which gets the registrant nothing except a number is over $150,000 per item. It takes years of expensive work, literally millions of dollars to get one new drug approved by the FDA and on the market.


If you are comfortable, putting poisons in your animals that will kill them if you give them to much go for it. However, there is a reason the makers of Wazine have the warning "Not for chickens producing eggs for human consumption" on the bottle. Lastly for those that recommend putting Ivermectin on the poultry you may want to contact the manufacturer and ask if they condone the practice and what is the recommended dosing.

I used Verm X as a natural wormer years ago. It was ineffective and a waste of money. Only a salesman would promote a useless product to line their pockets with money. There ARE test results regarding effectiveness or ineffectivenss of other wormers in poultry, such as albendazole. There ARE test results regarding the use of ivermectin injectable as a wormer. I'm not buying into your claim that test studies of Verm X cant be produced, because the test results will simply show that it is ineffective as a wormer, just as I stated. Contacting the manufacturer of Ivermectin (Merial) regarding use of their product as a poultry wormer is useless. They will simply state that it's not for use in poultry.
Your product fooled me once years ago; lesson learned. It hasnt happened again.
http://japr.fass.org/content/16/3/392.full.pdf
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract
By the way: In both your posts, you never mentioned that Verm X was a wormer. Go figure.

 

[pdirt]

By your user id and comments, I take you're an official rep for Verm-X? On the verm-xusa.com website:

"Successful trials at Plumpton College, West Sussex have been carried out on its action as repellent of internal parasites."
https://www.verm-xusa.com/f-a-q-.html

Is there more info available about these trials? What about countries other than USA and the UK that do allow publishing test results for non-pharmaceuticals?

Thank you.

[COLOR=000000]Interesting article; Too bad the author didn't bother to try it or find out why the studies are not allowed to be published but merely states who knows if it works![/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Verm-X is made with chemical free with non-GMO ingredients. Both British and US laws prevent the publishing of such test results unless the products are sold as pharmaceuticals. I wonder why that is so? The simple answer is follow the money - Monsanto - Merick - Libby - Johnson & Johnson and all of the big drug and chemical companies that do not want any competition. The FDA application fee which gets the registrant nothing except a number is over $150,000 per item. It takes years of expensive work, literally millions of dollars to get one new drug approved by the FDA and on the market.[/COLOR]


[COLOR=000000]If you are comfortable, putting poisons in your animals that will kill them if you give them to much go for it. However, there is a reason the makers of Wazine have the warning "Not for chickens producing eggs for human consumption" on the bottle. Lastly for those that recommend putting Ivermectin on the poultry you may want to contact the manufacturer and ask if they condone the practice and what is the recommended dosing.[/COLOR]