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Does anyone know if layer pellets contribute to water belly? My chickens are 💯 free range. They sleep in the coop but otherwise are pretty much on their own. We feed a layer pellet that we get at co-op, but for the past year we have had probably a dozen on more chicken s die from water belly. These chickens range from 3-5 years old . Is this happening due to old age or could it possibly be the layer pellets? They are laying hens.
 
Does anyone know if layer pellets contribute to water belly? My chickens are 💯 free range. They sleep in the coop but otherwise are pretty much on their own. We feed a layer pellet that we get at co-op, but for the past year we have had probably a dozen on more chicken s die from water belly. These chickens range from 3-5 years old . Is this happening due to old age or could it possibly be the layer pellets? They are laying hens.
Have you performed any necropsies?
First would be determining the source/cause of fluid in the abdomen - it could be reproductive, organ failure, etc.

Older hens are commonly prone to having reproductive disorders so it may not be that unusual to lose several a year.
 
No we haven’t. I wouldn’t know what to really look for. I thought it was probably due to their age, but I was hoping to find a common denominator as to why it’s happening. We have had chickens for about 7 years and have lost one or two that way... but lost the majority predictors. We moved our coop closer to the house and when we did that they started living longer due to being more protected. Then all of a sudden we lose all of the older hens to water belly roughly about the be same time. I thought this water belly is due to either them being old and their body’s wearing out or the commercial feed we are feeding. Does anyone feed anything other than layer pellets?
 
No we haven’t. I wouldn’t know what to really look for. I thought it was probably due to their age, but I was hoping to find a common denominator as to why it’s happening. We have had chickens for about 7 years and have lost one or two that way... but lost the majority predictors. We moved our coop closer to the house and when we did that they started living longer due to being more protected. Then all of a sudden we lose all of the older hens to water belly roughly about the be same time. I thought this water belly is due to either them being old and their body’s wearing out or the commercial feed we are feeding. Does anyone feed anything other than layer pellets?
If you lose another one, it would be good to either send the body to your state lab, or if you wish perform an informal necropsy yourself. Take photos and post them - while none of us are experts or vets, sometimes we can help you with what you see.

I do have to ask - curious how you know it's water belly? Have you drained fluid from the hens or is it just the way the abdomen feels? I have necropsied a few hens and found cancer and signs of reproductive issues like Egg Yolk Peritonitis. These can cause fluid in the abdomen. Also organ failure (heart/liver) often has the symptom of water belly too.

As for feed, I don't think layer pellets would cause water belly unless the hens are getting fat and it's affecting their liver (Fatty Liver Disease), but if you have the nutritional analysis of the feed, we will take a look to see if anything stands out.

Your question also- if anyone feeds something other than layer pellets. Yes. I personally feed a 20% protein all flock/flock raiser feed. I usually use 20% Flock Balancer from Southern States if they happen to be out and I really need feed, the I use Purina Flock Raiser (20% protein). Oyster shell is provided free choice. I choose to use a feed with a bit higher protein and less calcium than layer feed - I have roosters. Also for me, hens/pullets that are not in lay, I prefer they don't have quite as much calcium. The feed(s) I use can also be eaten by juveniles so I don't have to worry with switching types of feed.

You may find this video helpful if you decide to take a look at the next one you lose. I know it can seem bit "icky". The first time I did one it was a little intimidating and I also name my birds...but, once I started, it was not too bad. I'm no expert at it, but the first thing I normally look at with laying hens is the abdomen, reproductive system and major organs (heart/liver).
 
Thank you! I will check into all of that. I have looked for an all flock feed where I live and no one has any. I do have access to farmers who can mix some feed for me but I wouldn’t know what to ask for. Does anyone have a good mix they use?

The reason I think it’s water belly is their abdomen swells up .and is squishy.. it’s like a water ballon. They will still act ok for a long time and eventually get to where they have to rest and are very lethargic. Like i said these are all 3-5 year old laying hens ...I figured after this many years of laying daily that they were just worn out. I also wondered if the feed was causing this, as I had a 6 year old rooster a couple of years ago who got to where he would lay down a lot to rest... but he didn’t have water belly. I read the layer feed could cause organ failure in roosters.

my husband has put some hens down for me and I do believe he did open one up. He said yellowish water/just poured out of her. She felt like a water balloon.
 
Thank you! I will check into all of that. I have looked for an all flock feed where I live and no one has any. I do have access to farmers who can mix some feed for me but I wouldn’t know what to ask for. Does anyone have a good mix they use?

The reason I think it’s water belly is their abdomen swells up .and is squishy.. it’s like a water ballon. They will still act ok for a long time and eventually get to where they have to rest and are very lethargic. Like i said these are all 3-5 year old laying hens ...I figured after this many years of laying daily that they were just worn out. I also wondered if the feed was causing this, as I had a 6 year old rooster a couple of years ago who got to where he would lay down a lot to rest... but he didn’t have water belly. I read the layer feed could cause organ failure in roosters.

my husband has put some hens down for me and I do believe he did open one up. He said yellowish water/just poured out of her. She felt like a water balloon.
I would say if they are mostly in the 3-5yr range, then some type of reproductive issue was the cause. I've had some that had the large abdomens and lasted a good while, but eventually they just couldn't make it any longer and I put them down. Those were the ones that I found evidence of cancer and other reproductive problems.

I'm not a nutritionist so couldn't even begin to tell you about what to ask for if you get a custom mixed feed, everything I use is commercially made.
 
Have you ever seen any of your hens sneezing frequently? I have had infectious bronchitis (IB) in my flock a few years ago when they were a year or two old, probably from wild birds. Many of my hens have suffered from reproductive problems, and I have lost quite a few to ascites or internal laying/salpingitis. IB can cause many reproductive problems, wrinkle eggshells, or thin shelled eggs. Some of mine died young at 3 or 4 years, and I am still losing a few each year to ascites and salpingitis now that they are 7 and 8. Those are very common causes of death in hens.
 

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