What ever happened to the Blue-Laced Red Cochin projects???

[serendipityfarm]

In searching for the color, I came across a couple threads talking about them, but they (the threads) all seemed to have "died".
Anyone out there still working on them???
Pictures, anybody???

 

[RAREROO]

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Its probably because there are very few Silver laced or Golden laced cochin bantams out there with decent enough lacing to breed back to to make the project worth while.

 

[serendipityfarm]

I read a message from someone saying they used partridge.. how would that work? It has the dark red, and lacing, but it's not the right lacing...

 

[Coopa Cabana]

I'm still working on mine! I held back my 3 best F1 pullets, and they will all go back with their GL sire in a month or two - it's just way too cold here in Colorado for much egg production right now. I'm just now getting ready to separate all the colors in the coop, let all the hens "purify" for 30 days, and then see how the egg production is in February-March.
PS - I'm taking the all-Cochin route.

 

[joeyg4583]

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Yay and you are in Colorado too! Does that mean you might sell eggs/chicks down the road?

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Yay and you are in Colorado too! Does that mean you might sell eggs/chicks down the road?

Hi JoeyG! With only 3 hens for this spring, I'm sure I'll be hatching all the eggs. I will have youngsters available, but most will be splits - I don't expect to see actual Blue Laced Reds in the F2 generation - it's a wait and see and keep your fingers crossed project!

I'm in the metro Denver area also, so not too far from you.

 

[joeyg4583]

I may be interested in split youngsters it sounds like a cool project. I'm in Brighton do you ever go to the swaps? Ive seen some of your pics and your Cochins are gorgeous. I loved the columbians you had last year. I was very tempted.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Thank you! I did take some of the F1 BLR cockerels to the Brighton Swap last September, as well as a couple of extra Golden Laced pullets. It was my first ever trip to the swap - and definitely not something I enjoyed or want to make a habit. I did find some very nice homes for the GLs. But I'm sure I know where the BLR's ended up. The Columbians all found a new home up in Greeley last fall - just had to make more room for other projects. This year I'm concentrating on the BLR's, Golden Laced and Mille Fleurs. I'm restricted here as to the number of birds I can have, so things progress a bit slower for me than other breeders. But hopefully that also makes me a bit pickier as to the breeding stock I use and retain.

 

[serendipityfarm]

So, I saw somewhere that somebody is using MF in theirs (to get the darker red?), so I was thinking... I have a chick that is blue, the product of a Splash roo x MF hen... wonder if he/she would work in a "project" if I crossed to some GL's? I may have to play around & see. Unfortunately, he/she is about 4 weeks old, and I placed a pre-order for some GL chicks in Spring, so it will be a while before anything could come of it. Something to look forward to, maybe...

Coopa, you are doing Splash X GL, yes? What are you planning to use to get the Red?

Edit to add: Nevermind, after another look at your page, I see you have very Red GL's so that may take care of itself... where did those GL's come from?

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Hi Serendipity! Yes, I used my GL roo on my Splash hen. Genetically, GL's are supposed to have the Mh (Mahogany) gene - you just need to find the reddest you can. Additionally, GL's have the Columbian gene, which is also needed for the lacing, which Partridge are lacking. I would be hesitant to use MF's, as there are so many different genetic variations being bred right now. MF's also carry the Mo (Mottled) gene, but that should stay recessive as long as it is only used/encountered once.

Genetically, BLR is simply GL with a dose of blue: eb/eb s+/s+ Ap/Ap Mh/Mh Co/Co Pg/Pg Ml/Ml Bl/bl+. If I find down the road that I need to add more Mh, I will breed in a pure Red Cochin.

I actually anticpate more issues down the road with good lacing, rather than color. Good lacing is still an issue with my (straight) GL's - much more so with the females than the males. The females have great lacing on their breasts, but it's always an issue on their backs and tails.

My original GL stock came from Ken and Bernita Miller.