Chickengirl071

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So, my last remaining hen just hatched 15 eggs from my recently preyed on hens. I see that two of them are speckled Sussex and 4 might be black sex link. This would make sense to me. But a lot of them look like they could be Easter eggers. But we didn’t have any. All of our chickens laid brown eggs. These were our chicken breeds.
1. Speckled sussex
2. Black sex link
3. Silver laced Wyandotte
4. Gold laced Wyandotte
5. Possibly a black jersey giant or black Australorp
6. I’m not sure what the last photo is. A lot of these came from tractor supply as chicks.

These chickens were not pure bred, but I knew they were not Easter eggers. Can a chick be an Easter egger if its parents weren’t? My roo is a golden laced Wyandotte.

Sorry for the blurry photos, I was screenshotting them from a video I took. Some of the photos are my late hens. I miss them so much. 😞
 

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For what it's worth, the speckling on the sussex is recessive. Means babies can carry the trait but likely won't show it. Offspring from 2 of those would have a chance of producing the speckling. The rest of the babies: more hiding it and a few who don't carry it at all.

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Can be helpful in figuring out which came from where. However, your black sex link won't be in there. You'd have to research what the cross was to produce her, run those and then use her for the next cross with the wyandotte.

EEs won't be in that link either. They're already a mix. They're called Easter Eggers because they lay blue (or sometimes green) eggs. That is an inheritance trait, so if NONE of the ladies carried it (you'd know as their eggs would be colored), then none of the babies will either.
 
For what it's worth, the speckling on the sussex is recessive. Means babies can carry the trait but likely won't show it. Offspring from 2 of those would have a chance of producing the speckling. The rest of the babies: more hiding it and a few who don't carry it at all.

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingMobile.html

Can be helpful in figuring out which came from where. However, your black sex link won't be in there. You'd have to research what the cross was to produce her, run those and then use her for the next cross with the wyandotte.

EEs won't be in that link either. They're already a mix. They're called Easter Eggers because they lay blue (or sometimes green) eggs. That is an inheritance trait, so if NONE of the ladies carried it (you'd know as their eggs would be colored), then none of the babies will either.
So basically they can be all different colors?
 
These chickens were not pure bred, but I knew they were not Easter eggers. Can a chick be an Easter egger if its parents weren’t? My roo is a golden laced Wyandotte.
If all the mothers laid brown eggs, and the father was a Golden Laced Wyandotte, then no chicks will lay blue or green eggs. So I would not call them Easter Eggers.

All of your chicks are mixes (possible exception: you could have pure Gold Laced Wyandottes, if you hatched any eggs from that kind of hen.) Some traits are common in mixed breed chicks, whether they are Easter Eggers (supposed to lay blue or green eggs) or other kinds of mixes.

1. Speckled sussex
2. Black sex link
3. Silver laced Wyandotte
4. Gold laced Wyandotte
5. Possibly a black jersey giant or black Australorp
6. I’m not sure what the last photo is. A lot of these came from tractor supply as chicks.
With that list of breeds, and the photos of the chicks:

Chicks with the Gold Laced Wyandotte mother will be pure Gold Laced Wyandottes. Chicks with the Silver Laced Wyandotte mother will be Gold Laced daughters, and the sons will be sort-of Silver Laced. They will probably have yellowish coloring and maybe red blotches instead of the nice white Silver color their mothers have.

Chicks from the Speckled Sussex mother will be some shade of brown/red/gold with some black (probably includes at least some of the ones that are currently brown with stripes.) They will probably not show the "speckled" pattern as they grow up, just some other pattern of black with brown/red/gold.

Chicks from Black Jersey Giant or Black Australorp would be black.

Chicks from Black Sexlinks might be black, or they might be similar to the chicks from Speckled Sussex mothers (brown/red/gold with some amount of black patterning as they grow up, and a chance of stripes when they are chicks.)

Among the chicks that could have either Speckled Sussex mothers or Black Sexlink mothers, foot color may help sort them out: Sussex should give white skin to their chicks (look at the soles of the feet), while the Sexlinks are more likely to produce chicks with yellow skin (again, check the soles of the feet.)

Apart from Gold Laced Wyandottes, none are purebreds, and there is no special name for any of those mixes. "Barnyard Mix" or "Backyard Mix" are common names for chicks like that (BYM). If you know the parents of any specific chick, you can call it by the names of the parent breeds, like "Wyandotte-Sussex mix."
 
If all the mothers laid brown eggs, and the father was a Golden Laced Wyandotte, then no chicks will lay blue or green eggs. So I would not call them Easter Eggers.

All of your chicks are mixes (possible exception: you could have pure Gold Laced Wyandottes, if you hatched any eggs from that kind of hen.) Some traits are common in mixed breed chicks, whether they are Easter Eggers (supposed to lay blue or green eggs) or other kinds of mixes.


With that list of breeds, and the photos of the chicks:

Chicks with the Gold Laced Wyandotte mother will be pure Gold Laced Wyandottes. Chicks with the Silver Laced Wyandotte mother will be Gold Laced daughters, and the sons will be sort-of Silver Laced. They will probably have yellowish coloring and maybe red blotches instead of the nice white Silver color their mothers have.

Chicks from the Speckled Sussex mother will be some shade of brown/red/gold with some black (probably includes at least some of the ones that are currently brown with stripes.) They will probably not show the "speckled" pattern as they grow up, just some other pattern of black with brown/red/gold.

Chicks from Black Jersey Giant or Black Australorp would be black.

Chicks from Black Sexlinks might be black, or they might be similar to the chicks from Speckled Sussex mothers (brown/red/gold with some amount of black patterning as they grow up, and a chance of stripes when they are chicks.)

Among the chicks that could have either Speckled Sussex mothers or Black Sexlink mothers, foot color may help sort them out: Sussex should give white skin to their chicks (look at the soles of the feet), while the Sexlinks are more likely to produce chicks with yellow skin (again, check the soles of the feet.)

Apart from Gold Laced Wyandottes, none are purebreds, and there is no special name for any of those mixes. "Barnyard Mix" or "Backyard Mix" are common names for chicks like that (BYM). If you know the parents of any specific chick, you can call it by the names of the parent breeds, like "Wyandotte-Sussex mix."
Thank you so much for this info! I love learning about my chicks, but they just looked so confusing when none of them looked like their parents as chicks. I can’t wait to see what they grow up to look like.
 
So basically they can be all different colors?
The parent base colors are what they're going to show. Sometimes there are things hiding under the colors that pop out in mixes.
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These 2 are good examples. The hen is a blue laced red wyandotte x olive egger. He is a buff orpington x Colombian (or silver laced) wyandotte. In both, the wyandotte rose comb should have given them rose combs. However, in both cases the rose comb in the parents was only a single copy of the trait and in both cases, luck of the draw gave them straight combs.

She has zero red in her anywhere and no barring. Her mother had barring and gave that to her brother who popped the red from the wyandotte father also. He turned out red, white and blue barred. This hen also popped a tiny crest. Neither was crested which meant it had to come from farther back. The OE mother had to be Cuckoo marans x crested cream legbar even though she came from a feed store.

The rooster came from a backyard mixed flock, so the Buff Orp father may actually have been a buff orp mix. Playing with the genetics calculator, the only way I could get the spangling to be a possibility was with the wyandottes (both silver laced and Colombian as both were in the flock). Neither wyandotte is gold based and he shows he isn't pure gold with the blonde tips on his hackle feathers (around the neck).

I hatched out offspring from my gold penciled hamburg roo
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(He's regrouping his tail feathers here)

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And my mottled houdan.

Their babies hatched out black .... all black. The mottling of the mother was hidden under it. The fathers gold didn't show at all. One of them popped the mottling in subsequent adult moults but nothing but black until at least 18 months.

Mixes can (and will) do unexpected and unique things.
 
Thank you so much for this info! I love learning about my chicks, but they just looked so confusing when none of them looked like their parents as chicks. I can’t wait to see what they grow up to look like.
So basically they can be all different colors?

Genetics can do funny things, but some of it can be predicted. That is how I gave lists of what colors of chicks could come from what crosses.

For example, a Black Sexlink usually comes from a cross of Barred Rock Hen (black with white lines across her feathers) and a Rhode Island Red rooster (dark red with a black tail.) But Black Sexlink hens are like yours: black with no white barring, usually some red in the breast/neck/head area. She carries the genes for her father's color (red with a black tail) and can give those to some of her own chicks, and of course she has the genes for black all over, but she does not carry the genes for white barring (stripes across the feathers), because they have a sexlinked inheritance pattern that cannot go from mother (Barred Rock) to daughter (Black Sexlink).

The rooster came from a backyard mixed flock, so the Buff Orp father may actually have been a buff orp mix. Playing with the genetics calculator, the only way I could get the spangling to be a possibility was with the wyandottes (both silver laced and Colombian as both were in the flock). Neither wyandotte is gold based and he shows he isn't pure gold with the blonde tips on his hackle feathers (around the neck).
I am pretty sure that rooster is just gold, with no silver gene.
That means he could not have a Silver Laced mother or a Silver Columbian mother, because Silver is dominant over gold.

I don't know what genes are causing that "spangled" appearance on him, but I am fairly sure he didn't get it from the Wyandottes. I think it is more likely that the black patterning is caused by some set of genes that is not the same as what causes the usual "Spangled" pattern in Hamburgs and Spitzhaubens and Brabanters and the calculator.

I hatched out offspring from my gold penciled hamburg rooView attachment 3886030(He's regrouping his tail feathers here)

View attachment 3886032And my mottled houdan.

Their babies hatched out black .... all black. The mottling of the mother was hidden under it. The fathers gold didn't show at all. One of them popped the mottling in subsequent adult moults but nothing but black until at least 18 months.

Mixes can (and will) do unexpected and unique things.
Yes, that one is definitely predictable. A black chicken with white mottling, crossed to most other colors/patterns, will produce just black chicks. The black part is dominant over most other colors & patterns, and the mottling is recessive.
 

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