Wing bands

[Peafowlssssssss]

I recommend you special rings for chicks as shown on this side.
http://www.heka-brutgeraete.de/en/Poultry-Supply/Rings-Tags/20900.html
These rings are made of a plastic foil and growing then with the leg. I use for peafowl 8mm diameter and put it on when the chicks are 3 days old. The rings are growing then and with an age of approx. 5 month the will drop off by themselves, but then they have already the final closed numbered rings on. The final rings I put on with approx. age of 2.5 to 3 months.

These mentioned special rings for chicks you will get in many different colour and if you will used different colours for left and right legs you are able to make identically many different chicks.
I saw that you can buy these rings on Ebay too.

Based on this picture I will explain you my marking system.


After eclosion I mark the chicks for approx. 4 days with coloured cable tie that I know from which hen the chick is.

After four days all chicks are marked individually with coloured special chick rings. These rings are growing together with the leg and will drop off after 6 to 8 months by themselves.
The ring on right leg (tight green ring) is giving the hen.
The ring on the left leg (tight black ring) is for each chick of the same hen different. With this system each chick is identical marked for DNA sexing until I can put on the closed numbered ring bands.

The closed purple ring band on the right leg is the breeder ring with my personal breeder code, the year and a unique number for each bird. This ring has every year a different colour so it is easier to see the age without reading the ring code.
The closed yellow leg bend on the left leg is the stud-book ring with a unique numbering. The code of both rings together are only knowing the breeder and the stud-book keeper to avoid that somebody can cheat you. So everybody who is interested can contact the stud-book keeper to ask if everything is ok with the bird.

The white spiral ring is just for me, he is giving the hen to see direct the different blood lines when the small chick ring is dropped off.
I hope my explanation was understandable.

These look great, do you have the link for them on Ebay? I meant the final rings. And what is the oldest age you can put the final rings on?


Edited to add: Is it this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-100pcs-...985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee2c07f81

 

[Pfauenfreund]

These look great, do you have the link for them on Ebay? I meant the final rings. And what is the oldest age you can put the final rings on?


Edited to add: Is it this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-100pcs-...985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee2c07f81

These are some links for the special growing Chick wings on Ebay
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-ostseeblau-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Bandringe-Kukenringe-Huhner-Hahn-/171657636715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27f797ab6b
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-pink-schwarz-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Bandringe-Kukenringe-Huhner-/171770605288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27fe536ee8
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-neongelb-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Kukenringe-Geflugelringe-Tauben-/171363265622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27e60bec56

The final rings are not available on Ebay, they are manufactured specially for me with my special breeder indication and continuous numbered. These closed rings you can order from the following companies:
http://www.stengel-fussring.com/geschlossene-ringe/geschlossene-ringe-aus-kunststoff-3665
http://www.vogelringe.de/en/bird-ring-product-range
For hens I use ring with diameter 20mm and from males with diameter 22mm.
The final rings has to be put on for females with approx. 70 days and form male in an age of approx. 80 days
Sthe spiral rings you can put on every time, because these rings are not closed. These rings I only use that I can easy see from which hen the offspring are. Has no number or any other marking..

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

These are some links for the special growing Chick wings on Ebay
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-ostseeblau-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Bandringe-Kukenringe-Huhner-Hahn-/171657636715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27f797ab6b
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-pink-schwarz-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Bandringe-Kukenringe-Huhner-/171770605288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27fe536ee8
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Bandringe-8-mm-neongelb-10-Stuck-Taubenringe-Kukenringe-Geflugelringe-Tauben-/171363265622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27e60bec56

The final rings are not available on Ebay, they are manufactured specially for me with my special breeder indication and continuous numbered. These closed rings you can order from the following companies:
http://www.stengel-fussring.com/geschlossene-ringe/geschlossene-ringe-aus-kunststoff-3665
http://www.vogelringe.de/en/bird-ring-product-range
For hens I use ring with diameter 20mm and from males with diameter 22mm.
The final rings has to be put on for females with approx. 70 days and form male in an age of approx. 80 days
Sthe spiral rings you can put on every time, because these rings are not closed. These rings I only use that I can easy see from which hen the offspring are. Has no number or any other marking..

Thank you, i do have the chicks bands and they came from Germany i guess, i will search for the final rings here, many stores here will create like these bands for pigeons but i have to ask them if they have size 20 or 22. The ring size was the hardest to recognize, thank you for your help.

 

[AugeredIn]

OMG! I could tell you a horror story about DW and those little rubber bands on her chickens. They do not stretch and will grow into the leg if you don't keep an eye on them.

I have thought about bands but haven't found the ones I would be comfortable with. Wing bands require you to catch the bird to figure which one it is. Metal leg bands come off too just like wing bands. I bought the aluminum and the pliers to set them with and they still come off, granted the vet put them on as I was holding and controling the bird as she was doing it. Perhaps with a little more practice they would stay on better, but still the numbering system is limited.

I like having the colored plastic rings, no, they are not perfect and will break and fall off too, but at least I can tell from a distance which bird and age it is. For example the right leg is the year color we use in beekeeping for marking our queens. There are five colors that repeat every five years, White, Yellow, Red, Green, and Blue.

The Left leg is bird info like a black and white ring is BSWE, purple is Purple, black and purple is PBS, brown is Cameo, blue is IB, etc. That works very well for yearlings and two-year-old birds that haven't colored in yet or birds with hidden splits.

I have seen the bands offered at Smith Poultry Supplies, but I am interested where @Arbor and @Augeredin get theirs and what type the like best.

Lately I have used Jiffy wing bands from Randal Burkey or whomever has them on special. National Band also has them.

 

[AugeredIn]

I really like the leg bands but the problem is that the birds have to older to put them on. I lose track of each bird when I have 100-200 of them in the brooder system. I just don't have that manny birds lose the wing tags. You cannot read the leg bands either unless you catch the bird. I do use zip ties on the legs when they are young to easily separate colors and patterns without catching the birds.

 

[zazouse]

Thanl you all for your input it was all very helpful and gives me a direction to go .

 

[Pfauenfreund]

I really like the leg bands but the problem is that the birds have to older to put them on. I lose track of each bird when I have 100-200 of them in the brooder system. I just don't have that manny birds lose the wing tags. You cannot read the leg bands either unless you catch the bird. I do use zip ties on the legs when they are young to easily separate colors and patterns without catching the birds.

I go with coloured leg bands. To read numbers is to difficult and with coloured leg bands you can see it easy.

 

[KsKingBee]

I really like the leg bands but the problem is that the birds have to older to put them on. I lose track of each bird when I have 100-200 of them in the brooder system. I just don't have that manny birds lose the wing tags. You cannot read the leg bands either unless you catch the bird. I do use zip ties on the legs when they are young to easily separate colors and patterns without catching the birds.

That is why I like the colored bands too, although I only have a hundred chicks to keep track of so far this year. I really worry about the zip ties getting too tight, so I really keep an eye on that. Last year I got a batch of bio-disposable zips by mistake, they were falling off right and left. When buying them read the package and make sure you get the 'good ones'.