Worming while on Tylan ok?

[Kim95037]

So all of my chickens are on Tylan soluble for the next 3 to 5 days. Today while making my normal poop duty rounds I noticed there was one pile of poo with movement in it. I have 7 chickens, I'm not exactly sure whose poo it was, I have it narrowed down to two chickens. I saw some worms that were the size of a piece of rice but they were brown. Not sure what type of worm that is but its clear that I need to worm them. I was going to go ahead and do the Wazine first and then the Valbazen, like Dawg 53 has suggested,
this would be the first time I have wormed them. My question is, should I wait until after the Tylan dosing is done? Not sure if it is safe to mix the Tylan with the Wazine. Thanks for any input!

 

[dawg53]

It would be best to give your birds probiotics for a couple days after using the tylan, then worm them. If you can, please post a pic of the "brown rice" in feces you saw.

 

[Kim95037]

Yeah thats a good idea. They really like yogurt and I have some other powder stuff I could get from the Tractor Store. My Avian vet suspects mycoplasma, we are waiting for results of bloodwork. I drove 4 of my chickens to my avian vet on Tuesday, what an experience that was. Anyway, I did the Tylan injectable for 3 days and now they are on the soluble. It was weird after I injected a couple of my chickens they would like freeze and not move, it really scared me. They are fine now but it just made me wonder if I was doing more harm than good. My avian vet showed me how to do it just under their skin behind their neck.
Yes this worm is a curious one, it doesnt really fit the description of any that I have seen. As soon as I see another one I will get a picture, I was just outside and didnt see anymore in anyones poo. Thanks for your reply!

 

[dawg53]

Yeah thats a good idea. They really like yogurt and I have some other powder stuff I could get from the Tractor Store. My Avian vet suspects mycoplasma, we are waiting for results of bloodwork. I drove 4 of my chickens to my avian vet on Tuesday, what an experience that was. Anyway, I did the Tylan injectable for 3 days and now they are on the soluble. It was weird after I injected a couple of my chickens they would like freeze and not move, it really scared me. They are fine now but it just made me wonder if I was doing more harm than good. My avian vet showed me how to do it just under their skin behind their neck.
Yes this worm is a curious one, it doesnt really fit the description of any that I have seen. As soon as I see another one I will get a picture, I was just outside and didnt see anymore in anyones poo. Thanks for your reply!

Most chicken worms are white or off white in color. A couple types are red in color. A couple may "appear" to be "clear" in color but really arnt. Flukes appear as red or orange in color, maybe there are brown flukes, but I'm not sure about that though. It's also possible you may have seen small maggots moving in and through feces. I've seen that happen and they were covered in brown liquidy feces.

 

[Kim95037]

Yeah the poo was a lighter brown liquidy color so its quite possible the color of the worms may not be what I thought. So if it is maggots, they would still need to be wormed correct?

 

[dawg53]

First, I recommend that you positively identify IF they ARE maggots. If they are, you may not need to worm your birds (but it wouldnt be a bad idea.) Keep in mind that worms cannot survive outside their host. When worms are excreted, they are either dead or are dying. Maggots on the other hand, will be moving around.
A close resemblance to very small maggots would be tapeworm segments. Tapeworm segments look like white rice and move very very slowly in and on feces, I've never them brown in color.

 

[emmaie892000]

Especially in this hot weather, flies can lay eggs in poop and the maggots will hatch, giving the appearance of the chicken having worms. I would definitely try to identify the worms as intestinal before worming. Saves money and effort if they aren't.

 

[Kim95037]

Yeah I think it is a good idea to try and identify the worm. The poo was just dropped so I doubt there was any time for any flies to lay any eggs. It was within a couple of minutes of letting my chickens out to run around in my yard. These worms did not seem to be very slow moving around but definitely not as fast as maggots. I was amazed at how fast those little things can move around when I saw them on one of my chickens.

 

[emmaie892000]

Ok.
I would look for some more, put the poop on something solid colored, and try to rinse perhaps.

 

[Kim95037]

Good grief, I must have dug thru 20 different piles of poo and I cant see any worms. Unreal. I KNOW that I saw worms this morning, the whole little pile looked like it was breathing. And I know that it was brand new poo because I had just let my chickens out of the run. I'm usually up to my eyeballs in poo and now I cant find any! What are the odds. Oh well. Regardless I think these guys need to be wormed, the question now is the worming situation more important than the Tylan? I think I should finish the Tylan. I'm kind of disappointed it seemed like they showed greater improvement with the injectable, but it was so scary how they reacted afterwards. Anyway, my avian vet said to put them on the soluble for 3 days. I sure hope I can get the results of the bloodwork tomorrow. I cant stand it when these guys are sick, it bums out big time! I have seven chickens, I had to have my favorite one Molly my Barred Rock put down a couple of months ago. She was such a sweetheart. My dog is sick and I just had put my last kitty Marvin, down two weeks ago. He was 16. I miss him so much. I dont have family so my animals are pretty much my family.
Now I wonder is it normal for a chicken to have dark brown runny poo all of the time? I have a little bantam ee that has been pooping like that forever. She hasnt been laying which is kind of odd but I did get an egg from her yesterday that was really odd shaped. It was kind of flat on one side and wrinkly.