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  1. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    It depends on what they ingest on range that has nutritional value. Mine range an hour or more a day when I'm home. I rotate between 2 flocks. The way I see it, so long as my birds have good appetites, are at a good weight, have tight droppings, have glossy feathers, and have bright red combs...
  2. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Scratch grains are a source of fattening and carbohydrates. They have some nutritional value too, but not enough to supply the nutrient levels formulated feed does. If you want to learn much about poultry diets, Professors Jull and Heuser did extensive research composed by trials and testing of...
  3. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Scratch grains do not have the nutritive value of formulated feed. Of course chickens will prefer the scratch over formulated feed when given the option. It is commonly understood that scratch grains are not to be the main source of food. If a feed mill were to add corn,wheat, milo to formulated...
  4. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    So, the rise of boycotts throughout Europe and Asia in regard the American GMO crops must be "racist" too. Lol. Just so you know, Chinese is a nationality, not a race. And it is the Chinese government, which oversees agricultural production as well as the manufacture of food packaging...
  5. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    The shrill, contrived accusation of "racist" is an old tactic to slander, discredit, redirect the subject matter. A six year old article still points to the current existence of this problem. From imported drywall to food ingredients, enough people are aware of the perils of Chinese ingredients...
  6. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Connect the dots and follow the money. If anyone finds a trail of Chinese soy in livestock feeds sold in America, you have companies like this to thank: http://farmfutures.com/blogs-china-will-be-the-last-to-fail149bcrlf-690 I'm sure it is nothing to be concerned about though...
  7. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    A quality control problem with a company's brand of feed is an indication that it should not be used. Like the dog getting loose due to an open gate, it can be retrieved, just as a flock's health can be retrieved after bearing the brunt of a nutrient deficient diet.
  8. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Well, when CAHFS at UC Davis performs examinations, for instance, and they find birds bearing the brunt of nutrient deficiency, it would sensible to examine nutrition levels in feed being supplied. A friend of mine's relative founded Micro-Tracers Inc., and they are one example of how nutrient...
  9. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Seminole, Since feed rations come in anywhere from 16-25%, don't you think it wouldn't be wise to supplement additional animal protein to a 20% ration of plant proteins since overabundance of protein in general can compromise health? Wouldn't it be more sensible to use a 16% ration, for instance...
  10. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Be careful. They might burn your house down.
  11. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    That word bothered you, eh? There's no need to see it as a personal attack. What I mean are those posts trivializing concerns about protein percentages, when it is a balance of the most digestible proteins, both animal and plant, that show the best results over many years of trials. Protein...
  12. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    When I consider the amount of junk marketed to dog owners, I am thankful animal proteins are not common in poultry feeds. I would prefer to choose which animal protein I use, and know the source of that animal protein. For high quality whey without any artificial ingredients, it is not overly...
  13. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    You are trying hard aren't you, lol. 16% isn't bad for a predominant "scratch grain" product I used an example for someone other than you (since they asked). 10% is still higher than 8%. He asked for higher, there's another example. You can stick to Purina,Dumor, or whatever you want to use. BTW...
  14. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Dumor is manufactured by Purina as a store brand for Tractor Supply Co. You're not telling me anything I don't already know regarding those feeds. That's why I don't use them.
  15. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    I just use wheat germ oil ( 2-4 tsp per pound of feed), and no more than once every couple weeks. Cod liver oil is alright so long as it is kept around 3% content in feed like other oils. The oils won't go rancid because I only mix up enough to be fed that day. You'd have to ask a formulator at...
  16. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    It most certainly contains scratch grains, which Our Roost was asking about (a scratch with extra protein). The Nitro Scratch is another by the same mill which has more protein content than common 3 way scratch.
  17. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    It doesn't matter. Purina/Dumor are both owned by Land O' Lakes. Dumor was recalled less than 2 years ago: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm313507.htm I wouldn't use them, nor recommend them.
  18. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Avoid Dumor, Purina or anything owned by Land O' Lakes. Recalls are enough to keep me away: http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broilers/Nutrition/2014/4/Recall-Purina-recall-poultry-feed-potential-health-risk-1505542W/
  19. Michael Apple

    best brand of chicken feed?

    Some do. Some label it for roosters, http://www.baraleinc.com/index.php/products/poultry/item/141-16-rojo-grande-rooster-mix or you could always boost it with crimped oats since they are a decent digestible protein. Some people use nutritional yeast on occasion, which is loaded with B...
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