Originally Posted by sourland
Such deeply ingrained behavior would be difficult to change and would require constant reinforcement. The most effective solution would be exclusion of the dog. How? Electric fencing is a great educator for such an animal. Just by your descriptions of her past behavior, it is almost certain that she will kill or seriously injure the goats if she can get to them.
I was afraid of that. I was hoping that, since she made peace with the chickens, perhaps she might do the same for the other animals. Unfortunately, an electric fence is not an option for our grass area that I was wanting them to graze in. Fortunately, she's not able to jump over the fence into their pen, the only risk for them is if I let them out of their pen without locking her up in the house.
Originally Posted by popsicle
I agree that it's not likely to train the prey drive from a driven dog. It's not the dog's fault. Shar Pei are obstinate, and that was exactly what they were bred to be. If you don't want the dog to have access to your animals, you need to secure your animals.
Do you live at your mom's house? If my kid hurt my dog because my dog hurt my kids' goats, my kid would see every one of his/her animals evicted or taken to the processor. I'd be a lot more lenient if my kids brought home a dog that killed chickens than if my kid got cranky because my dog harassed their livestock at my house (regardless of who was where first, because it's my stinkin' house!). But again, I'm the one with all the animals including a highly prey-driven dog and goats, while my son wants a Shi Tzu.
I'm glad we're already jumping to conclusions. Firstly, I don't blame the dog. I blame my physically disabled mom for getting a breed that requires a lot of care and attention, when she knew she couldn't possibly take care of her alone. Does that mean I have to love the dog and be okay with her flaws? No. Secondly, my animals are secure. She cannot get in their pens. That doesn't stop her tormenting, she will stand at the fence and antagonize the goats. Though I would like to be able to let them out of their pen to graze without locking up the dog all day, since it's not fair to her. Finally, I don't believe I mentioned I would hurt the dog? But thank you for sharing that your dog's feelings is above your child's. I do I live on her property as her medical attendant and general caregiver. Considering I do the grunt work of caring for her dogs(She feeds and waters, I do the rest) due to her disabilities, I would sure hope she would care enough about my animal's welfare to at the very least, admit the dog has an issue. It should also be noted that she was the one who encouraged me purchase chickens, goats, etc. and put them on her property at her stinkin' house. She's already asking me if she can put them in the yard, out of their pen, so they can trim the yard like she wants them to.
Originally Posted by Birdydeb
I feel badly for you but have to agree with both previous posters. If it is your mom's property and her dog....just not much you can do about it. And I would feel the same about it being my house but I don't understand why she would insist on keeping a dog that harasses/kills other animals but that may just be me. Whether I loved the dog or not if it had a habit of torturing and killing other animals I myself could not keep that dog....or I would make a rule that no other animals were allowed on the property. I just wouldn't be able to take dead and tortured animals. That doesn't bother her? Shar Peis are not for the weak hearted and I have to ask....is this dog even trained to any degree or just allowed to run willy nilly as "so called protection". All of that said, I believe your only recourse is an electric fence as previously stated. Unless you can convince your mom to let you put a shock collar on the dog to try to train it away from the fence. I am not fond of that route truthfully and have to wonder if it would even be successful on a dog that is already used to chasing/harassing animals. I think probably the electric fence is your best option.
She doesn't deal with the deaths, I'm the one who has to see and dispose of the bodies or take care of the wounds she causes. I suppose it's not that bad in her mind, since she doesn't have to deal with the results of her dog's actions. As far as we know, she has not been trained. She was a shelter dog, so we don't know her history, but she does know basic commands like sit and shake. I have asked many, many times for her to get her some training, but the plans always fall through. She defends any of her bad behavior by saying "she protects us" and stuff like that by her barking, despite the fact that the dog barks at everything, and so her barking doesn't serve as a warning if she barks at everything. However, she is a good guard dog if somebody enters the house, she will attack people if they are not introduced to her by me or my mom. Unfortunately though, like I said to sourland, an electric fence isn't really an option.
I appreciate the responses from everybody, even though most of the responses I got were about my mom/it being her property, even though I was asking what I could do to teach her dog to leave my animals alone... But anyways, I suppose the dog will simply have to be locked inside if the goats are out of their pen. I didn't want to have to do that to her, but one of the reasons I got the goats was to keep the yard trim, which can't be done if they're always in their pen. And before anybody makes assumptions, my mom wants them to trim the yard as well, it was not solely my decision to get them.