International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Magnolia Hill]

correct marans blue copper . uniform blue with a thin lacing . gorgeous

chooks man

Good to know.

 

[Magnolia Hill]

I told you I don t know what they call for in other SOP .
if I ll look into them all I ll be confused .far I m concern the French SOP is the one I work with .they are French chooks and bred by French ,even I disagree with a lot of them .

if you showing in the USA ,make sense to breed to the USA SOP .

I don t breed to show .I m trying to breed true marans that all .

chooks man

I also try breed to my marans to the french standard also, and it's really causes me a lot a grief trying to work with other breeders in the states because i don't necessarily agree with how they are being bred.

 

[danceswithronin]

correct marans blue copper . uniform blue with a thin lacing . gorgeous

chooks man

That really light lacing is one of my favorite parts about a "blue" pattern, I really hope the blue Orpington I ordered for later in the month ends up having it.

 

[Bantambird]

I have not had much luck with shipping of egg to Wa, state. The last time 44 of awesomely packed Marans eggs I got 5 to hatch. That is where my Blue Silver Cuckoo hen came from. I am getting a started Black Copper Cockerel. I think will be a good one in about a month.

If you feel like a road trip, I'm in Montana and I am NPIP so you can get birds to Washington. I just hatched about 25, but I've only got black silver and blue silver and a few recessive whites. I have not tried shipping yet, but I live next to I-90 so it's not a hard road trip or somewhere unreachable. My blues are pretty dark compared to what I am seeing here, but this is my second year breeding blues and last year I was moving.

 

[Chooks man]

I also try breed to my marans to the french standard also, and it's really causes me a lot a grief trying to work with other breeders in the states because i don't necessarily agree with how they are being bred.

why the marans breeders in the USA are so confused .
there is 2 marans club is the USA .why . I m lost to understand why .
Marans of America Club { MAC }
Marans Chicken Club USA {MCCUSA }

why they do no breed to the original SOP .very simple .

Little peddler s marans . she has a pure marans from Monique .she never mixed them up .kept them pure .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I m having a same problem here in OZ . with a SOP .
I argued with them about a straight comb . the SOP call for a large .straight .5 well define points and the lobe does not touch the neck .
so what they are sating is .a Marans rooster should have a same comb as Leghorn and Rode island red rooster or any straight comb variety .
Marans and Lengshan should not have those type of comb .they should have they original comb .small straight ,rough texture ,balanced points number not important as long as they balanced .not gross points like a Leghorn . lobe does not touch the neck and not too arched .
for the hens .should be small ,thin and straight , could be a little bent as long as is straight from the front .
not what we see .those marans hens with a large straight cockerels almost type of comb. wrong .

I don t believe that all the straight comb chooks should have a same comb .WRONG . each breed has they own type .

I m not saying the people should do I m saying ,I m just speaking my mind and be honest . not trying to please no body . just saying a truth .

chooks man

I ll never accept a BCM rooster with a Black shoulder and gross large comb .

 

[kfelton0002]

Well, I really didn't have any other choice. One Cockerel ended up with so much white in his tail. I definitely didn't want to use him. The other one is so mean and he just didn't get the size. So much smaller than the other two. I would have posted pictures of them but he is so mean I couldn't get a good picture of them. I tried! This was the best I could get. He had me pinned. ATTACH!!! Lol I think they are going soon.
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OMG I am so behind in this thread.

Did those cockerels come from Harvey?

 

[kfelton0002]

I have two things to celebrate. No more mean rooster! My oldest son to the rescue. Plus the darkest egg I have ever had and it came from my Blue Birchen pen.
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I got my new egg color card from the club too! That is a nice egg!!

 

[kfelton0002]

I thought I would post a updated picture of this guy. I think this guy ended up the best out of the three. What do you all think of him? This one has changed so much. I added some pictures of his two gals also. There is a third Blue Copper hen but she is the one that injured her leg.

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They look so good! Very nice!

 

[kfelton0002]

cockerels from Philip
View attachment 1742334 cockerel #1 has a perfect body type and body pattern.his copper is a little litter but uniform . I m going to use him a lot over Liza s hens . out cross the 2 lines .
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Cockerel#2 has a better mass and better copper .rich red quality .lucking the complete body pattern ,very important . I m going to use him only with some specific hen .I do have 2 pullets for him from Liza s line . out cross the 2 lines

chooks man

They are stunning!!