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post #1311 of 5841

The problem with culling all the ones with red faces is it could be the best one you have meaning by is's overall qualities, your other sumatras could have way more problems then the sumatra with the red face. If you look at the scale of points in the American Standard of Perfection the most points you can lose is the shape of the head and the tail. you can not knock down a bird with only one little problem.idunno.gif No one can make a perfect bird no matter how hard you try.     

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post #1312 of 5841
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The problem with culling all the ones with red faces is it could be the best one you have meaning by is's overall qualities, your other sumatras could have way more problems then the sumatra with the red face. If you look at the scale of points in the American Standard of Perfection the most points you can lose is the shape of the head and the tail. you can not knock down a bird with only one little problem.idunno.gif No one can make a perfect bird no matter how hard you try.     

That's so true. 

post #1313 of 5841

Thanks I am so glad I am not the only one who thinks that. 


Edited by championsumatra - 1/7/13 at 11:10am
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post #1314 of 5841
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That's so true. 
I agree .
I have bred really dark face sumatras out of red face when only one of the parents was dark face.
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post #1315 of 5841
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The problem with culling all the ones with red faces is it could be the best one you have meaning by is's overall qualities, your other sumatras could have way more problems then the sumatra with the red face. If you look at the scale of points in the American Standard of Perfection the most points you can lose is the shape of the head and the tail. you can not knock down a bird with only one little problem.idunno.gif  No one can make a perfect bird no matter how hard you try.     
With years of breeding you will note that spending one or two generations on one thing can eliminate it completely. Then you don't have the issues of that problem and can focus on something else. It is a wise breeding tool, to not focus on too many traits at once. This does not mean forget type but not focus on for example: eye color, comb, spurs, face color, *perfect* tail angle, leg length, wing carriage... Etc) all in one year.
Breeding 2011
-Cubalayas: BB Red, Blue Red, GDW, Blue GDW, White, Red Pyle             -OEGB: Black and Wheaten
-Sumatras: Large and Bantam Black                                                         -Australorps: Black (one White hen)
-Ko Shamo: Blue Wheaten                                                                        -Brahmas: Light Bantams
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Breeding 2011
-Cubalayas: BB Red, Blue Red, GDW, Blue GDW, White, Red Pyle             -OEGB: Black and Wheaten
-Sumatras: Large and Bantam Black                                                         -Australorps: Black (one White hen)
-Ko Shamo: Blue Wheaten                                                                        -Brahmas: Light Bantams
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post #1316 of 5841

some more of my birds

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post #1317 of 5841

yes that is helpful cubakid that is how you get to that point generally.. but if the breeder that got your sumatra's from has already bred all the qualities down except the red face it dose not take very long to get really nice birds out. or at lest improve it.


Edited by championsumatra - 1/7/13 at 3:54pm
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post #1318 of 5841

Is it normal for a bantam Sumatra hen to be a little larger then her rooster? My hen is like a few grams heavier... But I'm thinking this because she's a good layer. Should I try to breed my hens smaller? 

post #1319 of 5841

yes you should.

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post #1320 of 5841

a chicken breeder told me to always make the bantam sumatras small even the roosters. 


Edited by championsumatra - 1/8/13 at 5:52am
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