White Leghorn, the forgotten breed

enola said:

Where did you hear that there is ground cardboard in chicken feed???

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There was a company a few years back that admitted to using scrap cardboard in their feed .
They were not even reprimanded .... just said they would no longer use it (funny) (?) .

If one looks or actually knew what goes into bagged prepared feeds with those relative ingredients usually even listed first , second or third it would be hard to identify . Testing by the State & Fed Gov is limited and only test for couple things that leaves so many things unanswered (i've talked to the testers while i was working for the state).

And it's easy to see some of the different brands of feed that looks and smells like anything but grain and feed products .
But millions and millions of chickens are fed on it every day and i guess their diet could be worse .

You been working the archives ?

I read the whole thread if that is what you mean about archives.

I guess the old addage "you get what you pay for" really does apply to everything........

I have brown leg horns and white leghorns.

enola said:

I read the whole thread if that is what you mean about archives.

I guess the old addage "you get what you pay for" really does apply to everything........

I have brown leg horns and white leghorns.

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("you get what you pay for") well ..... i would say (just me) ... yes & no ..... we need to try our best to be smarter about what we are doing ..... cause i see those popular politically correct high priced feeds flying off the shelves(some places it's only thing on the shelves)and if i found that was all i had to feed i would rather skip a feeding than feed that stuff .

The same for chickens as it is with feeds ..... one never knows where they might find gold

cubakid said:

No. New Hampshires should NOT have a lopped comb.

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Ummmm..... looking right at Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry Breeds -and I quote from their description of New Hampshires:

"Medium-size single comb with five points that are upright in males and droop to side at rear on females."

Would someone with a copy of the APA standard be willing to check that and post it here?

The Yakima Kid said:

Leghorn hens have floppy combs, AKA lopped combs; the cocks have the upright combs. New Hampshire hens also have a "lopped comb."

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The standard only calls for an "inclination" to lop at rear only. It is not a lopped comb.

I wouldn't quote Storey's, it's not always the same as the standard.

enola said:

I read the whole thread if that is what you mean about archives.

I guess the old addage "you get what you pay for" really does apply to everything........

I have brown leg horns and white leghorns.

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The worst thing to do is try to save a buck by using cheap feed. I stick by organic rations I'm familiar with from my area. Some may think it is crazy, but I taste a pellet for palatability. What tastes good, and has sufficient nutrients means less waste and healthier birds. I love the Leghorns. One of my favorites.

Michael Apple said:

The worst thing to do is try to save a buck by using cheap feed. I stick by organic rations I'm familiar with from my area. Some may think it is crazy, but I taste a pellet for palatability. What tastes good, and has sufficient nutrients means less waste and healthier birds. I love the Leghorns. One of my favorites.

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You don't have to go organic to get a good feed; but avoiding feeds with names like "money saving" and "Do More" is probably a good thing to do. I usually feed Purina Sun Fresh. I tried another feed in close to the same price range and the eggs just didn't taste as good. The greens and everything else were still being fed, but there was something missing in that feed.

The Yakima Kid said:

You don't have to go organic to get a good feed; but avoiding feeds with names like "money saving" and "Do More" is probably a good thing to do. I usually feed Purina Sun Fresh. I tried another feed in close to the same price range and the eggs just didn't taste as good. The greens and everything else were still being fed, but there was something missing in that feed.

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There's some truth to that statement. Though if it is labeled organic by Oregon Tilth, it will not contain GMO, and many prefer that. There are labeled organic and soy-free feeds I wouldn't use because of their formulation or birds rejecting them because they aren't palatable to them. Though a well formulated organic ration is superior to any of the others in my opinion. King brand, Modesto Milling, and Bar Ale organic feeds top any Purina I've seen or used in the past.

Michael Apple said:

There's some truth to that statement. Though if it is labeled organic by Oregon Tilth, it will not contain GMO, and many prefer that. There are labeled organic and soy-free feeds I wouldn't use because of their formulation or birds rejecting them because they aren't palatable to them. Though a well formulated organic ration is superior to any of the others in my opinion. King brand, Modesto Milling, and Bar Ale organic feeds top any Purina I've seen or used in the past.

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Some birds have expressed a disinterest in one of the feeds you named. I really want to see if I can find some Scratch & Peck.

The Yakima Kid said:

Some birds have expressed a disinterest in one of the feeds you named. I really want to see if I can find some Scratch & Peck.

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Sometimes sudden changes in weather or moulting will cause chickens to go off feed for a bit. I'm unfamiliar with Scratch & Peck, if that is a brand. I've witnessed chickens rejecting feed over the years if it is a powdery crumble. I prefer pellets. Bar Ale is making a soy-free-GMO free ration that is better than others I've seen since sunflower meal and fish meal are the replacements for soy. Add some Avian Super Pack and some Probios dispersible powder to the water if they are off feed. That will help them out during reduced feed consumption.