Pomeranian Goose Breed Thread

[1MrsMagoo]

Huh! I know she is selling locally but didn't hear anything about her wanting to get out of them entirely. Well, this might be the chance I needed I guess. I will contact her. Here geese might be distantly related but its better than nothing. Thanks.

Distantly related is fine. In chickens somebody told me that they consider it a new bloodline within a few generations, something around 5 I think. It wouldn't be like you were trying to mate brother to sister or anything like that though.
She was on the ropes about the birds. At first she wanted to let go of the entire flock and try to place them together with a serious breeder. After we typed at each other, she may have reconsidered but I'm not sure. She may let a trio or quad go, which would be great for you.
Good luck and my fingers are crossed!

 

[ashandvine]

I have emailed her twice now with no response.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

I have emailed her twice now with no response.

Well, fingers are crossed that she is just busy and will get back to you soon.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Some of the Pomeranians gathering at the pond last week.



The spring hatched birds I kept this year.

 

[ashandvine]

Nope. She is stonewalling me for some reason. She says she has sold all she is going to.

 

[DuckRaiser]

I'm a monster! Woot, Woot!

 

[fancyfowl4ever]

Hi everyone,
I got a question/problem that I hope someone can give me pointers at how to solve.


I am new to having Poms, liked the Saddleback Pommeranian for years since the stable in Europe where we use to go riding had a SQ flock of them roaming the grounds and I have never seen anything even close over here.
Well this year I took the plunge and bought 2 goslings off a friend at the west coast whos flock originally came from german imports(nice big heavy birds, close to what I remember my Ideal pom to look like). That was all he raised of them this year. Turned out at some point one of his African ganders flew the fence and the one gosling clearly was a an African X(and not even pretty...).... he went to freezer camp. So left with a single, mismarked gosling(which turned out to be female). Bought 3 more goslings from another source(who brokers from all over the place so who knows what kind of flock they came from).

Anyhow, these 3 new ones are 3 months older than my original gosling, and better marked but they are very noticeably smaller. Turned out they are 2 geese and 1 gander too. They are currently housed with a pair of French Toulouse geese that are also this years hatch and tower over these Poms like Giants, closest to their size being the mismarked female out of the german line. The Toulouse even have closer to the body shape that a pom is supposed to have then the 3 smaller Poms and, here is my problem!
Looking at them I almost think I would do better breeding that german female to the Toulouse gander than that pathetic excuse of a Pomeranian Gander out of the "mystery" line.

What should I do? I feel if I breed the large goose to the smaller gander, yes I probably get pom marked goslings but I am diminishing size and body shape. I rather build the barn first and then paint it, so crossing her with the Toulouse would keep or even up the size, but colour may take a while to get back and I know I have to cull hard for proper type(the Toulouse not being Ideal pom type either).
Have been trying to find better lines of geese, but it took me 8 yrs to find these in the first place..... Saddleback Poms in Canada seem to be a well kept secret(I have been told they exist but any leads I get tell me they don't sell birds, or I have to buy the whole flock off of them or refuse to send any pictures etc etc).

 

[ashandvine]

Crossing to a Toulousse is going to ruin your single lobe and coloring. You won't have a pom anymore.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Hi everyone,
I got a question/problem that I hope someone can give me pointers at how to solve.


I am new to having Poms, liked the Saddleback Pommeranian for years since the stable in Europe where we use to go riding had a SQ flock of them roaming the grounds and I have never seen anything even close over here.
Well this year I took the plunge and bought 2 goslings off a friend at the west coast whos flock originally came from german imports(nice big heavy birds, close to what I remember my Ideal pom to look like). That was all he raised of them this year. Turned out at some point one of his African ganders flew the fence and the one gosling clearly was a an African X(and not even pretty...).... he went to freezer camp. So left with a single, mismarked gosling(which turned out to be female). Bought 3 more goslings from another source(who brokers from all over the place so who knows what kind of flock they came from).

Anyhow, these 3 new ones are 3 months older than my original gosling, and better marked but they are very noticeably smaller. Turned out they are 2 geese and 1 gander too. They are currently housed with a pair of French Toulouse geese that are also this years hatch and tower over these Poms like Giants, closest to their size being the mismarked female out of the german line. The Toulouse even have closer to the body shape that a pom is supposed to have then the 3 smaller Poms and, here is my problem!
Looking at them I almost think I would do better breeding that german female to the Toulouse gander than that pathetic excuse of a Pomeranian Gander out of the "mystery" line.

What should I do? I feel if I breed the large goose to the smaller gander, yes I probably get pom marked goslings but I am diminishing size and body shape. I rather build the barn first and then paint it, so crossing her with the Toulouse would keep or even up the size, but colour may take a while to get back and I know I have to cull hard for proper type(the Toulouse not being Ideal pom type either).
Have been trying to find better lines of geese, but it took me 8 yrs to find these in the first place..... Saddleback Poms in Canada seem to be a well kept secret(I have been told they exist but any leads I get tell me they don't sell birds, or I have to buy the whole flock off of them or refuse to send any pictures etc etc).

Saddleback Poms are a well kept secret no matter where you are located. Most serious old time breeders don't do the internet so have to be sussed out by making contacts at shows. I have 3 different bloodlines, but two are from local farmers and only one from an exhibition line. Strangely, the exhibition birds bills, legs, feet were much too orange, but their markings were better than mine. Mine had better body types, and more pink than orange in the bills/legs/feet. So suffice it to say, it is very difficult to get good birds to start with.

I didn't see or may have missed it, but what color Poms do you have ? Also, are you able to hatch eggs?

It would be far easier to get eggs to you in Canada either legally or on the "down low" than it would be to get you birds: I would think that would be cost prohibitive. I personally would NOT cross the Toulouse with the Poms. Not only do you stand the chance of losing the single lobe and bill/leg/foot coloration, which is problematic already due to Embden crosses in the past, you also risk losing the blue eyes. I would rather see you get another Pom of the other color and work with them.

As to size, the Poms are supposed to be a medium sized goose by the American standards. They may have gotten too small at some point which is why somebody along the line crossed them with Embdens. Three quarters of my flock are proper sized birds: I do have a couple females that are in my opinion undersized (shorter, thinner, weigh less). I took those girls and put them with the larger broader chested ganders and most of the birds hatched from those pairings were the right size/shape.

 

[1MrsMagoo]

Okay folks it is coming up on that time: Breeding season is just right around the corner for those of us in the South (my girls should start laying in the next 90 days). I have begun compiling my wait list for the upcoming season for hatching eggs and so forth. If anyone is interested, please PM me for details: I am NPIP certified in Louisiana. I will have 5 mature pairs and at least 2 juvenile pairs for this season (May do a couple trios). Quality ranges in my flock but I do have 2 pairs I would call potential SQ breedings at this point: I hope to increase that number in the future.

Also, anyone willing to sell any eggs, goslings, or started birds, please feel free to post. We need to keep spreading these wonderful birds to new owners in hopes they establish flocks and help preserve the breed!