have I created a white laced?! ha!

Thanks everyone for your replies. I will be taking a look at the calc.

pastorwalt said:

There are several experts on this forum who are better qualified to explain the genetics
again, I recommend Henk's calculator
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
but here's what I would guess:
the warrens, (I think), must have the dominant white gene, which only affects the black
the lavender rooster would be black but for a double dose of the lavender gene
the chicks get the extended black from dad which would have made them all black.
but get dominant white from mom, which makes all the black parts white
if you go to the calculator and plug in a lavender male over
a red female with two dominant white genes...
(Isa Brown has only one, but you can change it in the calculator)
you would get all white chicks -split for lavender
the red is still there, at least in the males
waiting for the extended black gene to go away
- Walt

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Thanks for the explanation it was some what understandable by my limited knowledge

problem is that calculator you refer to is way over my head

I don't know how to use it al all

infact if anyone could do a thread explaining its ins and outs would be great

I bet everyone would love that

Henk69, the creator of the calculator, has always been very helpful
Maybe he would supply simplified instructions.
or open a thread to take questions
- Walt

kellysmall87 said:

Hi everyone, I dont know if white laced chickens existed, but I bred a warren with a gold laced and got a chicken who has the gold laced pattern on it'a chest in red and white. Thoughts?

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yes they exist, but often are called 'buff laced' in USA- maybe it is called Jubilee in UK and other countries. Do internet searches for pictures. USA examples are Buff sebrights, buff laced polish.

You're getting really close to why you got chickens with white lacing. White laced/buff laced is exactly a gold laced with dominant white added. That's it. You did a cross of a bird carrying dominant white(warren) with a bird with lacing genes(gold laced) and the offspring showed partial lacing- lacing is due to several genes and they all need to be pure to get decent/good/full lacing.

If you like the white lacing and want to 'improve' on the lacing, by far the easiest is to keep breeding the birds with white back to gold laced birds with good lacing. The idea is to breed for birds with improved lacing each generation, keeping and breeding the birds with white for the ride-a-long and you will end up with well laced birds with dominant white changing the black lacing to white.

Dominant white is very good at blocking black pigments from being put into the growing feather. But it is not very good at blocking red/gold pigments.. so the feathers come out with most of the red/gold pigments intact with the black being 'blocked'. Look at your warren, notice she has a white tail and a red body. That's dominant white in work.. if she did not have it, her tail would have been black.

Thanks so much Kev, you have cleared it up nicely for me. I have googled and yes it does exist, and its so fascinating that white cancelled the black out, as in humans, dark colours are more dominant aren't they? I would have thought that black would have overridden the white. Mind you, that particular chick is the only one who is white laced, all the others are predominantly red or red/black.

Thanks Again,

kelly.