I can understand that! It's hard to put money into them and not get much back but I don't breed to make money. It's nice if I do, but I don't expect it. For me it's just a very expensive hobby.
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What I learned is that this is a mutation so almost anything is certainly possible. To get a "breed" it has to breed true all the time. Mutations on the other hand can and do carry previous genes which can pop up every so often depending on how they are expressed. So, you cull, for standard traits, keep the ones who throw the most all black chicks, eat the others (restaurants may find this a interesting dish and pay better than normal prices) so that the undesired expressed genes are diminished over time.So, I purchased 2 Ayam Cemani pairs from 2 different breeders.
3 of my Ayam's have black eyes & combs now that they are developed (5 months-ish).
The fourth, a rooster - has developed an off red comb(while as the other 3 have black combs) and he has orange eyes (all of the others have black eyes).
I believe that I was sold a different Ayam breed (one that has similar appearance) but isn't actually a Cemani. These have red combs/ETC. but aren't Cemani.
Any suggestions/feedback here?
>Can an Ayam Cemani even have a red comb/orange eyes?
>>If not: I feel as if I paid WAY to much from this breeder and should ask for the bulk of my money back.
Thanks,
CM
I know this post is old but I thought I would put this out there for people who may still be looking for Posts like this.... I have an Pure Breed AC and it was born with white flecks in its wing (Which I love) And white on its chest that is now darkening. I also spoke with a man who owns one and it is pure as well but his has the genetic defect of red in the comb. As far as the eyes I have not spoken with anyone who has ran into that. However I have been talking to a local breeder I have made arrangement with to get a dozen incubating eggs from this spring told me that the ones who are completely black can produce AC with the genetic defects and I read ones with the genetic defects can produce all black its a genetic crap shoot. That I guess is why I don't understand why breeders Cull the one with the defects because the ones with the defects can still give them pure breed all black and the all black can still produce the genetic issues. Make sure to find out 100% sure the AC do not carry these genetic defects.... I know I was livid about mine until researching and speaking with breeders. However even if she has these defects or was pure or not to me she was worth all the pain because she is so petite and lively she gets to stay with me a little longer......
I know this post is old but I thought I would put this out there for people who may still be looking for Posts like this.... I have an Pure Breed AC and it was born with white flecks in its wing (Which I love) And white on its chest that is now darkening. I also spoke with a man who owns one and it is pure as well but his has the genetic defect of red in the comb. As far as the eyes I have not spoken with anyone who has ran into that. However I have been talking to a local breeder I have made arrangement with to get a dozen incubating eggs from this spring told me that the ones who are completely black can produce AC with the genetic defects and I read ones with the genetic defects can produce all black its a genetic crap shoot. That I guess is why I don't understand why breeders Cull the one with the defects because the ones with the defects can still give them pure breed all black and the all black can still produce the genetic issues. Make sure to find out 100% sure the AC do not carry these genetic defects.... I know I was livid about mine until researching and speaking with breeders. However even if she has these defects or was pure or not to me she was worth all the pain because she is so petite and lively she gets to stay with me a little longer......
Does the local breeder sell hatching eggs and ship them. I can not get back into contact with one I spoke to.There’s a breeder somewhat near me and her rooster and hens are pretty solid she’s selling them for $50. Those that have a grey tongue or grey patches on bottom or feet she sells for $20. Last 2 photos are of mine.