Blue Copper and Splash Copper Marans Discussion

[bwalden]

The discussion on this thread might help regarding the splash copper rooster.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/652622/marans-rooster-blue-copper-splash

Blue, Black, Splash Marans (aka... BBS), solid birds that do not carry copper genetics and Black Copper, Blue Copper and Splash Copper are 2 different color varieties of Marans, so when speaking of the Blue Copper variety and Splash Copper varieties...then a person would see copper in the Splash that come from copper genetics.

Solid BBS Marans should not carry copper and should not show copper as they are suppose to be based on silver. True solid BBS birds are pretty rare and IMHO, alot of "BBS" Marans are Marans that have copper genetics in their background somewhere. It's very easy to assume a melanised BCM or melanised Blue Copper as a solid bird as some melanised birds can appear completely black, blue and splash.

SOMEBODY CORRECT ME PLEASE IF I AM MISTAKEN IN WHAT I SAY IN THE PARAGRAPH BELOW....I don't want to give the wrong info.
When the 2 varieties are crossed it can create offspring that carry one copy of each gene, 1 gold/red (not sure if gold and red are considered the same here) and 1 silver. The silver can produce birds that can show color in the hackle, wing bow and saddles, lighter than should be, ie... cream/yellow or gold. If the Coppers also carry Mahogany, Mahogany will show as red in the shoulders of the males, but I am uncertain of the effects of Mahogany on silver based birds.



Hope others come by to post their opinion and I hope this helps and I didn't confuse anyone or anything or give the wrong info.

Thanks for the info. This does explain it pretty well. The chicks I hatched from this person's eggs are not really showing splash characteristics but they are only about a month old. I'll have to wait and see how they feather out.

 

[sol2go]

pinkchick, thanks for your comments and shared laughter.
I really appreciate the genetic info, I didn't realize the BBS Marans are silver based.
I'll have to look around for a little more info; any links are appreciated.

 

[pinkchick]

Okay Don and Vicki... here is Splash Jordan, the Splash Copper hen that I gave to my bestfriend 2 years ago as a chick. She is a beast, just like the Blue Copper I have. Her topline, IMO, is better than the Blue Coppers and tail end is not as high. Her tail could be a little more open, it's not as open as my other girls, but she is nice and wide from shoulders to tail.
Couple things I don't care for about her is..the very last point on the comb that is slightly wonky with a bend, she has a double chin, for lack of better words and she is a little fluffy in the feathering dept for me...seems like she could be just a smidge tighter feathered. As for the double chin, well she looks like she is sporting what resembles a very very small thin dewlap. Don't know if you can see it in the photo but would love to hear thoughts.


She is lightly feathered on the shank and outer toe, but Will, (leg photo posted below) should help out with the 2 females that need help in the shank feathering dept.
If you need more photos of her let me know, had a hard time getting her to cooperate yesterday, too many goodies to get to under all those leaves.

Will's shank and outer toe feathering. Can't really see the toes but he's good!

Bumping in hopes that Don and/or Vicki give me their thoughts on this bird.

 

[buddy phoenix]

got a blue splash roo n hen today! wish i could post their pictures!! 3 dozen of eggs too. come on 3 weeks lol

 

[gilavina]

Bumping in hopes that Don and/or Vicki give me their thoughts on this bird.

I think she will work fine lady, you pointed out all the things that I saw as well, and as long as you are mindful of them when pairing I think she will work out for you. I don't know how I missed this post before. I suppose I've been pretty busy lately. I'm just praying for spring to come early, even tho its currently snowing outside

 

[pinkchick]

Thanks Vicki!
I am going to pair her up with the dark male and see what they give me. Then I am going to single mate her to Lil' Bill, will be interesting to see what I get from both pairings. I am also entertaining thoughts of grabbing one of her sisters a very very dark blue from my bestfriend and single mate her as well to the dark male, the blue I would like to borrow back has WONDERFUL crisp edging. LOL, if I keep borrowing my bestfriends birds she'll only have a few left at her house. Good thing she doesn't mind.




Buddy~ Congrats on your new arrivals and good luck with the hatching eggs!

 

[pinkchick]

Oh and speaking of spring.....today is a lovely blue skied sunny day. Suppose to be 60 degrees, I can see that happening. I have many things in the flower beds coming up, tulips, daffodils, crocus, chives...yes'siree looks like spring. Wish I could send some your way!

 

[buddy phoenix]

thank you cant wait! got eggs 10 a dozen! lucky me! out of davis line. is this bad?

 

[jendodd79]

60 degrees?? You're in Wa right? I'm just north of Vancouver, I hope it's that warm here too!!!

 

[bobbieschicks]

I know we don't have a standard for Blue Splash Copper Maran yet, but what color legs would one have if there were a standard? My guy and girl have what look like red legs to me. At any rate they are definitely not dark.