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I am not sure about the real definitions of long draw and short, but in my head(mind you it is getting older so some of the ole synapses arent working like they used to) I see short draw being a more stationary way of spinning and long draw a more active. For me, long draw has someone(usually NOT me) moving the roving from near the wheel back, up to the wheel again and back again, with the twist in front of the off hand( for some the twist may get between it and the dominate hand), and the dominate hand keep things moving toward the wheel and the off hand is back and forward and doing most of the work. When I have seen folks using this method it is a really fast way to spin and is used with longer to medium staples because they will stay together better with the lighter twist and they also draw better without breaking. A short draw, from what I remember, is used more with shorter staples, because it keeps the yarn together better so there are not as many breaks or weak points in the product. From what I have seen this is what most people use when they have VM or other goodies they have to pick out of roving/fiber. The off hand is holding the roving and is pretty stationary and the dominate hand is moving the roving/fiber out the front toward the wheel. The off hand pinches the fiber to keep the twist just in front and just behind the off hand thumb and finger. The dominate hand keeps things from getting over twisted and may even slightly untwist while moving things toward the wheel(though this last part, I am sure, is only for those of us who dont have as much control as more proficient spinners). Because the off hand is the stop for the twist with this method it lends itself better to fiber that has to have stuff picked out of it, and that is usually done with the dominated hand. I guess the best way and the shortest way for me to put it when I think about it, is that long draw the stop for the twist is done with the off hand and with long draw it is done with the dominate hand. Now this may all be total hogwash because it is probably just formulated by me from things I have seen and heard and is not in any way something from the experts. I am probably way off base.
I often use the agitation and shock method to set twist and dont think I have ever had a problem with felting. Now my friend who sometimes throws her hand spun, no matter what fiber she's spinning, in the clothes washer to set the twist, now that is a true adventure in felting/not felting. She sometimes doesnt get the amount of agitation just right and ends up with a tangled felty mess that she picks through. But as she says the yarn is a lot more shrink proof. Gives me the willys, just thinking about it!
My Catahoula Leopard Dog once found a very putrid deer carcass and smart boy didnt eat any, just rolled in it! UGH! lol, but that was ok, because within minutes he found several fresh cow pies and proceeded to roll in all of them. LOL, he was green by the time he was finished and stunk to high heaven! It was hard to keep him from sharing with us. Thank goodness neither of those scents have the "stay in" qualities of skunk scent! Wish I had taken pictures of him, all green with dark spots! He thought he was really something!
I am not sure about the real definitions of long draw and short, but in my head(mind you it is getting older so some of the ole synapses arent working like they used to) I see short draw being a more stationary way of spinning and long draw a more active. For me, long draw has someone(usually NOT me) moving the roving from near the wheel back, up to the wheel again and back again, with the twist in front of the off hand( for some the twist may get between it and the dominate hand), and the dominate hand keep things moving toward the wheel and the off hand is back and forward and doing most of the work. When I have seen folks using this method it is a really fast way to spin and is used with longer to medium staples because they will stay together better with the lighter twist and they also draw better without breaking. A short draw, from what I remember, is used more with shorter staples, because it keeps the yarn together better so there are not as many breaks or weak points in the product. From what I have seen this is what most people use when they have VM or other goodies they have to pick out of roving/fiber. The off hand is holding the roving and is pretty stationary and the dominate hand is moving the roving/fiber out the front toward the wheel. The off hand pinches the fiber to keep the twist just in front and just behind the off hand thumb and finger. The dominate hand keeps things from getting over twisted and may even slightly untwist while moving things toward the wheel(though this last part, I am sure, is only for those of us who dont have as much control as more proficient spinners). Because the off hand is the stop for the twist with this method it lends itself better to fiber that has to have stuff picked out of it, and that is usually done with the dominated hand. I guess the best way and the shortest way for me to put it when I think about it, is that long draw the stop for the twist is done with the off hand and with long draw it is done with the dominate hand. Now this may all be total hogwash because it is probably just formulated by me from things I have seen and heard and is not in any way something from the experts. I am probably way off base.
I often use the agitation and shock method to set twist and dont think I have ever had a problem with felting. Now my friend who sometimes throws her hand spun, no matter what fiber she's spinning, in the clothes washer to set the twist, now that is a true adventure in felting/not felting. She sometimes doesnt get the amount of agitation just right and ends up with a tangled felty mess that she picks through. But as she says the yarn is a lot more shrink proof. Gives me the willys, just thinking about it!
My Catahoula Leopard Dog once found a very putrid deer carcass and smart boy didnt eat any, just rolled in it! UGH! lol, but that was ok, because within minutes he found several fresh cow pies and proceeded to roll in all of them. LOL, he was green by the time he was finished and stunk to high heaven! It was hard to keep him from sharing with us. Thank goodness neither of those scents have the "stay in" qualities of skunk scent! Wish I had taken pictures of him, all green with dark spots! He thought he was really something!
I keep thinking I should buy a used/cheap top loader for the basement, just for wool.
