Crop not responding to treatment

[Wyorp Rock]

I think I'd try a flush.

 

[Elsie-Belle]

I think I'd try a flush.

I did the flush yesterday morning by offering the molasses solution for 8 hours (went ahead and let all 4 birds have it) then switched back to clean water with probiotics (I’ve been making up fresh probiotic water each day while she was on the miconazole… which yesterday was her last day of the 7 day treatment). Her poop last night looks pretty much like all the recent photos I’ve posted. Crop very full of food and water when she goes to roost at night and then is very firm and doughy in the AM. I have copper sulfate being delivered today. Should I try it or do another round of miconazole? Or do another molasses flush? I am wondering at this point if she is impacted further down the digestive tract. Last night I saw her EAT two pieces of the pine shavings that I use on the floor of the coop and on the nest boxes (I use dry mulched up leaves that we collect each fall in their covered run and attached covered run).

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Well, a flush might work that way if she drinks enough of the solution.

Usually you just give it to the individual in a short period of time, this ensures they actually drink it or if needed you tube/syringe the solution into them.

1 teaspoon to 1/4 cup warm water is what you want to give as a flush.

 

[Elsie-Belle]

Well, a flush might work that way if she drinks enough of the solution.

Usually you just give it to the individual in a short period of time, this ensures they actually drink it or if needed you tube/syringe the solution into them.

1 teaspoon to 1/4 cup warm water is what you want to give as a flush.

I followed the instructions found here: bitchinchickens.com/2021/07/22/internal-flushes-for-chickens/ and I decided to offer it to all 4 birds as it seemed like not a bad idea to do once a year or so just to keep everyone “cleaned out” so to speak.

I know my crop hen got a fair amount as she drinks a ton these days. Do you think it’s safe to dose her again with the ratio you are recommending?

 

[Elsie-Belle]

Also your thoughts on continuing the Miconazole or doing the copper sulfate? I want to try some of these as needed but obviously need to do them in the right order if it turns out they are needed.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Is her crop still sour?

You've given miconazole twice a day for 7 days correct? I'd see if the flush makes a difference. It's almost like she's got a blockage, so getting things moving may resolve it all.

 

[Elsie-Belle]

Is her crop still sour?

You've given miconazole twice a day for 7 days correct? I'd see if the flush makes a difference. It's almost like she's got a blockage, so getting things moving may resolve it all.

I never had any real confirmation that her crop was ever sour. No smell, just doughy and never completely empty. So based on the length of time that it stayed full it was recommended by several here that I treat it with the miconazole twice daily for 7 days which I did. I will do the flush this morning. Can you confirm that I should be letting her stay with the flock and eat and drink as she pleases while I am treating her?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

A crop that is doughy, generally will be turning sour, so I agree, treating as such is always a good idea.

See how she does after the flush and if the crop begins to empty.

I never withhold food/water from any bird that I'm treating for a crop problem. Some people do, but I don't.

 

[Elsie-Belle]

A crop that is doughy, generally will be turning sour, so I agree, treating as such is always a good idea.

See how she does after the flush and if the crop begins to empty.

I never withhold food/water from any bird that I'm treating for a crop problem. Some people do, but I don't.

I agree… she needs the nutrients!

I am worried about the poop (loose but not super watery) that I have seen the last few days. I am seeing a lot of fiber that looks like wood shavings in it and I did witness her eat a few pieces a day or so ago. I have since taken all the pine bedding out of the chicken house and nest boxes and replaced it with the dry mulched leaves that I use in the covered run. But my question is this: I don’t feel anything like shavings in her crop (that feels like it has a ton of grit in it) so could she have a wad of shavings in her intestines? And can she even remotely pass that??

 

[Wyorp Rock]

A lot depends on the material and where it's located if a blockage can be cleared. It's sort of one of those wait and see type of things.

Go back over the article along with the comment section and see if you can gleen any other tips to help get a blockage cleared. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/