Day old chick cannot walk, falls on side

[kuchchicks]

They are eating no medicated crumbles. They are eating very well at this point. I have actually seen even more improvement with both. The black chick walks and acts exactly like the healthy chicks do. If I did not have the yellow chick I would put him in the others. But the yellow chick cries whenever the black one is gone. The yellow chick is standing a little better. He will stand unassisted for 5-10 seconds. He can get up off the ground though he still walks against the wall. I'm going to continue with what I'm doing at this point and just let it play out. But am considering selenium because everyone is talking about it. I believe it's to aid in absorption correct?

 

[casportpony]

They are eating no medicated crumbles. They are eating very well at this point. I have actually seen even more improvement with both. The black chick walks and acts exactly like the healthy chicks do. If I did not have the yellow chick I would put him in the others. But the yellow chick cries whenever the black one is gone. The yellow chick is standing a little better. He will stand unassisted for 5-10 seconds. He can get up off the ground though he still walks against the wall. I'm going to continue with what I'm doing at this point and just let it play out. But am considering selenium because everyone is talking about it. I believe it's to aid in absorption correct?

I checked this thread and the amount of selenium is not mentioned. I asked about how much a small chick can have because I think it's very easy to OD them on it, so whatever you do, it's probably wise not to try to give it part of a selenium pill.

This is the only link I have found that mentions and amount, but it's for a two pound bird:
http://www.browneggblueegg.com/Article/Crookneck/Crookneck.html

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

They are eating no medicated crumbles. They are eating very well at this point. I have actually seen even more improvement with both. The black chick walks and acts exactly like the healthy chicks do. If I did not have the yellow chick I would put him in the others. But the yellow chick cries whenever the black one is gone. The yellow chick is standing a little better. He will stand unassisted for 5-10 seconds. He can get up off the ground though he still walks against the wall. I'm going to continue with what I'm doing at this point and just let it play out. But am considering selenium because everyone is talking about it. I believe it's to aid in absorption correct?

Google "avian medicine selenium ". With horses I think e and selenium are given together.

-Kathy

 

[kuchchicks]

I want to sincerely thank each and everyone of you that helped me care for my sick babies. Today I took my little yellow chick to the vet. She told me that the condition was neurological and progressive. She also said that despite the fact that the chick was eating and drinking every two hours the chick was malnourished and starving. She said that the neurological condition would eventually paralyze the chick if it did not starve to death first. She also told me that she felt the chick was suffering. I hated to do it, but I let me little chick go.

It was very difficult but it would have been selfish to hold on to him. I did have one week with my little baby and know I gave him all of the love that I could.

My black chick is continuing to grow and thrive. After his slipped tendon was fixed, he is growing and acting normally and I expect him to have a long, full life.

My hatch (from the same parents) is finishing up today. So far all of the chicks that have hatched appear to be healthy and walking normally. I am hoping that they are all going to be fine and the last hatch was just a fluke. With that said I am giving all of them extra vitamins for the first couple of day.

 

[casportpony]

So sorry, I know you really tried,

-Kathy

 

[izziebean]

You are so kind. You took the little thing to the vet! You loved on her for a week. Now, she's not suffering. Now.. new babies to celebrate!!

P.S. Thank for taking us along on your journey. I learned a lot. I didn't even know that chicks could have neuro problems or that some babies need splints.

 

[kuchchicks]

I learned a lot too. Everyday I learn something new about these awesome guys. It was a bitter sweet week. Losing my yellow chick was tough. I kept hoping I was going to get another miracle like I got with my black chick. I hated letting yellow go but ultimately it would have been selfish to keep him. With all that said I felt so much joy being able to save my black chick. What a sense of joy to see that little guy walk now!!! He is thriving! I'm am grateful for this experience...even my time with yellow short as it was.

 

[WVduckchick]

I'm so very sorry about the yellow one, but so very pleased to read that the black one is doing well!!

If you could, and have the time, it would be awesome if you could describe exactly what all you did with the black one, especially the leg wrap. As you know, there isn't a whole lot of good info out there, and not a lot of good outcomes! So its awesome that your little guy is making a full recovery! I hope you named him Miracle!

 

[kuchchicks]

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Absolutely. I actually did quite a bit of research on determining what the problem was. The symptoms that my chick had were a flat hock, unable to extend the leg, unable to stand on the leg, walking on the knee, and swelling to the knee. The day the chick hatched I did not notice any problems as he was sleeping a lot just like all of the other chicks. He was getting himself to the food and water dish just fine. The day after he hatched is when I noticed the symptoms. He did not appear to be in any pain. I was able to move the leg, palpate the leg and the joint and he did not seem to mind. When I straightened the leg behind him (like when you see them stand and stretch their legs) the joint seemed to look more normal, however there was still a decent amount of swelling. At this point I was certain that the chick had a slipped tendon. (I have a video of the chick trying to walk but I cannot upload it. If anyone wants it sent to them please text message me and I will send it to you.) From what I read I knew that this was a disability that needed to be fixed sooner rather than later. The longer they sit untreated the less likely they are to be corrected. My fear was him walking on the hock, getting open sores that became infected, and developing sepsis. (Which by the way I did find someone who made a foam boot that was velcroed to the leg to protect the hock. It did need to be washed and the hock washed and dried regularly but the chicken was a thriving adult. This is something else that could be considered if you are okay with having a special needs bird.) To correct the leg I went and got vet wrap. Vet wrap is ideal because it sticks to itself, but not to the chick. I tried to get 1" vet wrap but the smallest I could find was 2". I ended up cutting it down to approximately 3/4". I then wrapped the chick in a towel (covering his head) to keep him calm and still. If your chick is upset or scared you may want another person to help hold the bird still. I placed the bird on his belly and gently pulled the leg backward into that same position I described earlier where it looks like they are stretching their legs. Next I gently adjusted the tendon back over the knee and then wrapped it with the vet wrap. I wrapped the leg so the joint was snug but not so tight that circulation was cut off. I made sure that the chick could not bend the knee but when I touched to toes the chick still responded. Chicks at this age grow VERY quickly so it it important to recheck the toes OFTEN to make sure that circulation is still intact (look for discoloration - blueness or a darkening of the tissue that does not match the other foot, cool or cold toes, toes that start to curl into a fist, chick does not respond when touching the foot - all of these are signs that circulation is being cut off) If circulation is being cut off then the wrap is too tight and needs to be redone. After I wrapped the leg, I made a "sling chair" with vet wrap and a rubbermaid container (there are pictures earlier in this post, again if you want pics sent directly to you message me). Now the chick DID NOT like the sling chair, but I strapped him in and secured him with vet wrap. His feet were dangling and I did not allow them to touch the ground. It is important that the chick not bare weight on the bad leg until it heals. I was aware that the pressure points that the chick was now laying on could cause bedsores. With that said I took him out of the chair every time I feed him to rub his belly and stretch his other leg. I also spent a lot of time holding this chick. He seemed much more calm and relaxed while I was holding him than when he was in the chair. But I do have 4 kids and 2 jobs so that was not always a possibility. I also found that when he was stressing out, if I put him in a dark quiet place he would generally go to sleep. Also keep in mind that since this chick cannot move you must be very aware of how hot the chick is getting under the brooder light. He is not able to move to go cool off if he is getting too hot. You don't want to save the chick's leg only to lose your chick to heat exhaustion! I was offering food and water every 2 hours. You could tape small food containers to the sling chair if needed just be sure to take the chick out regularly to readjust his position and stretch. I was giving the chick Poli-Vi-Sol 1 drop 3 times a day and Pedialite. I was not sure if the chick was getting enough nutrition and also found that the slipped tendon could be a vitamin deficiency issue. I also fed the chick NONmedicated food (I normally feed my new chicks medicated feed but did not want it to interfere with the vitamin absorption). About 31 hours after I placed to leg wrap I had noticed that the chick's toes were darker than the other foot. The chick did still move the toes a little but they also felt slightly cooler (all signs that the circulation was being affected... with the chick growing so fast the wrap had become tight very quickly). I started to unwrap the leg to readjust the wrap - my chick was not thrilled that I was messing with his leg again. If this happens to you make sure that you wrap your chick in a towel to cover the head and/or get help. Vet wrap does stick to itself very well and you don't want to pull too hard and hurt the hip or knee joints. Once I unwrapped the chick's leg, the chick hopped up and tried to stand. Now because it had been wrapped straight for quite a while, when he stood the leg was straight - but at least he was off his hock. I left him there for a few minutes and he was slowly starting to flex the joint and in the right direction. The chick was VERY WOBBLY and I did attempt to get him back in the sling chair without the wrap but he was not having it. I did place him back in a dark room and he ended up going to sleep. I continued to monitor him every few hours to make sure the tendon did not slip back out. Within 2 days he was completely stable on his leg and walking normally. I also continued with the Poli and Pedialite for another week. The biggest lesson I learned here is to act promptly, give vitamins, and be patient. This was a success story and I believe that this chick will go on to lead a very full life. However I have also read lots of other stories where the tendon could not be fixed and the chick/chicken was put down. Others that could not be fixed applied the foam boot to the chicken's leg. Had I not been able to fix the tendon I believe this is what I would have done. I think each case is different and you need to go with your gut. The disability can be caused by vitamin deficiency, injury, and/or genetics. While I will keep this chick, I do not plan on having him being part of my breeding stock. Because I cannot be sure why the chick had this issue I do not want to take the chance of passing it to the next generation. I hope this helps someone out there. I hope I covered everything. I did keep a log while treating this chick (as I do with all of my hatches) so if I missed something or did not answer a question you have please feel free to message me. Also if you need an immediate answer feel free to text me 330-414-6906.

 

[WVduckchick]

Wow! That's excellent, and thank you for writing it all up, so nice!

Now after reading it, I think back to the one that I could not fix. Her leg stuck out straight all the time, not always bent like yours. More like the tendon was too tight. Maybe I should have wrapped it in a manner to keep it folded. Hmmmm...

I'm sure your experience will help many out there, or at least give extra options for success.