Hello!
I know there is already a really, REALLY useful thread abour colour genetics : https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/mallard-derived-duck-color-genetics-basics.74277/
But sadly, this thread does not answer all of my questions, because I read some of more elsewhere, and I am a bit lost about some things...
So... I have questions about my runners ducks.
Indian runners come with lot of different colours, and I would really like to know what I can get from mines...
...Last mating season, I had my four adult runners copulating.
A mistake caused by the one who sold me these runners had me get not 1 drake and 3 ducks like I wanted to, but 2 drakes and 2 ducks...
So, the ratio male-females was way off... That's not a problem in fall and winter, but in mating season (spring and summer)...? My drakes were so agressive I had to put them away in another pen... (Poor boys...)
But not before to allow them to fertilize the eggs!!
Thus : I had brooding chickens sit on these eggs, and I was lucky enough to meet the cutest little ducklings...!
These ducklings came in 4 colours :
- white,
- light dusky,
- (faulted) trout,
- black bibbed (with only one of them having a "perfect" bib : the others having just got white spots on the chest area and just near the bill).
Knowing their parents are :
- 1 trout drake,
- 1 white drake,
- 1 light dusky duck,
- 1 black duck, with only a little, little bit of white on the chest area and near the bill (hard to see, but clearly coming from the bib gene...? I believe her parents are two PURE black, but...).
So... I wonder about the ducklings' feathers colouring...
Thus, my questions are those :
1 - Are my black bibbed ALL born from my trout drake's seeds?
I KNOW "Trout X Black" makes "Black Bibbed"... and since the ducklings have more white spots than their mother, I am pretty sure my trout drake is their father...
But I am no expert about genetics, and I wonder if there is a minor possibility my white drake could be their father...?
2 - WHO is my light dusky's father?
Since the mother is a light dusky... is the white drake the father?
Because, I don't know... could a "Trout drake X Light Dusky duck" give pure "Light Dusky offspring"...? Should they not have some default in the colouring, with a trout father...?
3 - How did I get a faulted trout duckling?
My faulted trout was born an ordinary trout duckling...
Her father is my trout drake, obviously... but her mother?
I don't think her mother is my black duck, since "Trout X Black" = "Black Bibbed"... but is it a 100 percent certainty?
...Otherwise, her mother would surely be my light dusky duck... and if so : could I ever have a chance to get PURE trout babies with my trout drake and my light dusky duck...?
4 - How can I get rid of the bib?
I think I read somewhere I could get rid of my blacks' bibs if their ducklings get TWO dusky alleles...?
So... could I get some PURE black ducklings from my trout drake and my black (bibbed) adult duck...?
Or... would it be possible to have them by breeding one of my black duckling (the young drake - son of the trout drake) with a light dusky duck...?
5 - What colours could I get in the next mating season?
For the time being, I own :
- 1 trout drake,
- 1 white drake,
- 1 black bibbed drake,
- 3 light dusky ducks,
- 2 white ducks,
- 2 black bibbed ducks,
- 1 faulted trout duck.
(Taking in account the fact I will keep them in three different pens, because I don't want any inbreeding problems...!)
The light dusky colour... the seller told me it was called "Brun Sauvage" in my country, and that I could get "Mallard" and "Brown" ducklings...
Is it true?
...
Thank you to the ones who will read and answer me...!
(And sorry!!!)
I am posting some pictures.
Not great quality, but if it could help...
(If you want to, I can post others...!!)
First picture : my 2 adult drakes - the DADS.
Second picture : my 2 adult ducks - the MOMS.
Third picture : the faulted trout duckling (now an adult, at 6 months and a half old).
Fourth picture : the ducklings I keep for the time being (now 3 months old).
(Not so good pictures, because I don't know how to take beautiful pictures...
My young black drake's feathers are, actually, already so shiny he could put a Cayuga to shame, and so... my mom told me to keep him!)
Thank you again!
Also : nice to meet you!
I know there is already a really, REALLY useful thread abour colour genetics : https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/mallard-derived-duck-color-genetics-basics.74277/
But sadly, this thread does not answer all of my questions, because I read some of more elsewhere, and I am a bit lost about some things...
So... I have questions about my runners ducks.
Indian runners come with lot of different colours, and I would really like to know what I can get from mines...
...Last mating season, I had my four adult runners copulating.
A mistake caused by the one who sold me these runners had me get not 1 drake and 3 ducks like I wanted to, but 2 drakes and 2 ducks...
So, the ratio male-females was way off... That's not a problem in fall and winter, but in mating season (spring and summer)...? My drakes were so agressive I had to put them away in another pen... (Poor boys...)
But not before to allow them to fertilize the eggs!!
Thus : I had brooding chickens sit on these eggs, and I was lucky enough to meet the cutest little ducklings...!
These ducklings came in 4 colours :
- white,
- light dusky,
- (faulted) trout,
- black bibbed (with only one of them having a "perfect" bib : the others having just got white spots on the chest area and just near the bill).
Knowing their parents are :
- 1 trout drake,
- 1 white drake,
- 1 light dusky duck,
- 1 black duck, with only a little, little bit of white on the chest area and near the bill (hard to see, but clearly coming from the bib gene...? I believe her parents are two PURE black, but...).
So... I wonder about the ducklings' feathers colouring...
Thus, my questions are those :
1 - Are my black bibbed ALL born from my trout drake's seeds?
I KNOW "Trout X Black" makes "Black Bibbed"... and since the ducklings have more white spots than their mother, I am pretty sure my trout drake is their father...
But I am no expert about genetics, and I wonder if there is a minor possibility my white drake could be their father...?
2 - WHO is my light dusky's father?
Since the mother is a light dusky... is the white drake the father?
Because, I don't know... could a "Trout drake X Light Dusky duck" give pure "Light Dusky offspring"...? Should they not have some default in the colouring, with a trout father...?
3 - How did I get a faulted trout duckling?
My faulted trout was born an ordinary trout duckling...
Her father is my trout drake, obviously... but her mother?
I don't think her mother is my black duck, since "Trout X Black" = "Black Bibbed"... but is it a 100 percent certainty?
...Otherwise, her mother would surely be my light dusky duck... and if so : could I ever have a chance to get PURE trout babies with my trout drake and my light dusky duck...?
4 - How can I get rid of the bib?
I think I read somewhere I could get rid of my blacks' bibs if their ducklings get TWO dusky alleles...?
So... could I get some PURE black ducklings from my trout drake and my black (bibbed) adult duck...?
Or... would it be possible to have them by breeding one of my black duckling (the young drake - son of the trout drake) with a light dusky duck...?
5 - What colours could I get in the next mating season?
For the time being, I own :
- 1 trout drake,
- 1 white drake,
- 1 black bibbed drake,
- 3 light dusky ducks,
- 2 white ducks,
- 2 black bibbed ducks,
- 1 faulted trout duck.
(Taking in account the fact I will keep them in three different pens, because I don't want any inbreeding problems...!)
The light dusky colour... the seller told me it was called "Brun Sauvage" in my country, and that I could get "Mallard" and "Brown" ducklings...
Is it true?
...
Thank you to the ones who will read and answer me...!
(And sorry!!!)
I am posting some pictures.
Not great quality, but if it could help...
(If you want to, I can post others...!!)
First picture : my 2 adult drakes - the DADS.
Second picture : my 2 adult ducks - the MOMS.
Third picture : the faulted trout duckling (now an adult, at 6 months and a half old).
Fourth picture : the ducklings I keep for the time being (now 3 months old).
(Not so good pictures, because I don't know how to take beautiful pictures...
My young black drake's feathers are, actually, already so shiny he could put a Cayuga to shame, and so... my mom told me to keep him!)
Thank you again!
Also : nice to meet you!
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