DH thinks this one will live outside at the farm. I really don't see that happening. I've never had an outside dog... Well, not since I was about 6. And we didn't keep it long. DH grew up with a farm/ranch lifestyle with farm dogs. But he'll get sad when he heard it crying out there by itself.Didn't take long for me to have a 12x20 pad poured w/7 kennels on it. Made life a lot easier to clean when I could hose it down into the gutter. Had 17 dogs at one point, including 2 litters of small pups.