Peacock Lost by USPS

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I know no one likes the cost and hassle and it's stupid expensive for just one bird, but I used to sell exotic animals for a living and I always used Delta Live Animal Cargo, same day delivery (just a few hours in many cases) from airport to airport... They even keep the animals in climate controlled rooms in the cargo docks and they always were on top of things, calling me within minutes of the package arriving at the docks for me to pickup... I have nothing but good things to say about shipping animals this way but it is costly...
 
MeepBeep said:
I know no one likes the cost and hassle and it's stupid expensive for just one bird, but I used to sell exotic animals for a living and I always used Delta Live Animal Cargo, same day delivery (just a few hours in many cases) from airport to airport... They even keep the animals in climate controlled rooms in the cargo docks and they always were on top of things, calling me within minutes of the package arriving at the docks for me to pickup... I have nothing but good things to say about shipping animals this way but it is costly...
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I would like to know more about this for future reference. How costly are we talking? How big of airports are necessary? Or is it any airport Delta flies to?
 
Hannah15 said:
I would like to know more about this for future reference. How costly are we talking? How big of airports are necessary? Or is it any airport Delta flies to?
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Just do a Google search for "delta live cargo" and read up about it, it looks like the rate for birds is a minimum $180... Rates have went up quite a bit since I used to do it, but it's still cheaper than driving and as I said they get proper 'live animal' care doing this, they are not treated as just another box...

It's been years since I have shipped this way, but assuming things have not changed to much there were two ways to ship... Obviously both parties need to have an airport that Delta cargo services, other airlines might offer similar services but when I was in the business everyone used Delta... There were two types of shipping, one was regular animal cargo and it what I used most of the time, basically the animal is dropped off at the cargo loading docks (usually off site not at the airport proper) and then picked up at the cargo loading docks at the receiving airport... The second 'premium' service I believe is their 'DASH' is you take the animal into the airport and drop it off as basically 'luggage cargo' and then it's picked up at the other airport in the unclaimed luggage area... I only used the premium service once as it was obviously more costly but also a hassle to find parking, go into the airport, get the package and what not, much, much easier to just pull up to a loading dock off site (no security hassles or parking hassles) and grab the package... The only real advantage to the premium service is you know when the package will arrive because you get a flight number, for cargo you have to wait until they call you and tell you it arrived...

I used to get animal shipments from Miami, FL every week to Chicago, IL and it generally only took about 6 hours from the time they dropped off until I picked up as long as the animals were shipped in the morning, if it was shipped later in the day it sometimes got stuck overnight at Delta's Atlanta hub, and arrived the next morning... Cargo is generally not given priority or a specific flight (unless you use the premium service) regular cargo is put on whatever plane has room so it might take a few hours before it catches a flight, so it's always best for the seller to drop off as early as possible if you want same day delivery...

Oh and BTW if you are squeamish be prepared as funeral homes use airline cargo to move bodies around, so it's quite common to see a bunch of caskets on the loading docks... Didn't bother me but I was caught off guard the first time I made a pickup as saw all the caskets just sitting on the dock...
 
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All I can say is that really stinks, I would be ready to let them have it. If they kill your bird, perhaps the humane society or a local newspaper would like to hear this story of negligence and cruelty. As for the shipped eggs that got abused, if there is another PO nearby perhaps those breeders could try that, I often ship eggs from my post office and the one in the next town over, depends which is more convenient, as I always deliver to the PO as opposed to letting the carrier pick them up. In PA we are known for our "Splendid Roadways"
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, full of potholes, sinkholes and trenches.... so I don't want them bouncing the day away as my carrier finishes her route! I will keep my fingers crossed for your bird, they can survive a lot. My older IB was a neglect case, caught in the middle of a divorce the wife moved out so the husband quit feeding and watering "Her" birds, when we got there they were trying to catch flies to eat and their water dish was bone dry for who knows how long. Brought the pea and some golden pheasants home just to get them out of there.
 
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Hannah15 said:
On another note, does UPS ship live birds? I was under then impression that they didn't. Or are you just referring to egg shipments? I really like Fedex, but I don't think they ship live animals either.
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I don't have peafowl but I have shipped chickens. While the USPS handles the drop off and delivery, it is actually a 3rd party such as FedEx that does the actual shipping of the lives from the origin sorting facility to the destination sorting facility. While the bird is in FedEx hands the USPS cannot track it. And while supposedly FedEx isn't supposed to bump live shipments for dry ice Mon-Wed it does happen. If you call FedEx to find out where your birds are they won't be able to tell you either because you do not have one of their tracking numbers. Believe me I have tried.

I no longer ship birds because of this mess. That and the one time FedEx mistakenly put 2 of my shipments on a flight containing dry ice. Only one of 11 survived, though I am baffled how the one pullet made it.
 
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Hannah15 said:
Sorry for another post, but has anyone ever given subcutaneous fluids to a bird? Obviously, if he is still up and willing to drink when he gets in this will not be necessary, but I would like to be prepared. I have only given them to a cat, just wondering if it is the same. Thanks.
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I have given subbies to peafowl. It' not as easy as a cat, but if you've done cats, you can do birds. My full size hens get 200ml twice a day for egg binding issues. I'll see if I can find you some good pictures or vidoes.

-Kathy
 
Some info here:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/07_emergency_and_critical_care.pdf

From here:



Clinical Avian Medicine

Greg Harrison, DVM, Dipl ABVP-Avian, Dipl ECAMS and Teresa Lightfoot, DVM, Dipl ABVP-Avian, have compiled the expertise and experience of 50 international contributing authors (and 50 reviewers) to produce an extraordinary two-volume reference, with over 1000 pages of text and over 1300 color images, for veterinarians and other avian health professionals.
The purpose of the book Clinical Avian Medicine is to provide some highlights of emerging thoughts, techniques and procedures that are currently being assimilated into avian practice.
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And this:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/15.pdf

From:
Avian Medicine: Principles and Applications

Avian Medicine: Principles and Applications
Ritchie, Harrison and Harrison
This highly regarded was developed to provide a definitive reference text that blends the science of health with the art of clinical medicine.
By applying the information presented in the book, the competent avian practitioner will be able to effectively provide the highest quality care for his patients and guide the companion bird client or aviculturist in implementing and effective preventative health programme. Less experienced practitioners can learn basic evaluation, support and surgical techniques while developing an expanded understanding of advanced procedures that can be performed by specialists in avian medicine and surgery.
Avian Medicine: Principles and Application is the essential reference and the most comprehensive why to, when to and how to guide for companion and aviary bird management, medicine and surgery.
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Here is a video I found:
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When the tech showed me how to do it she prepped the area with rubbing alcohol first, but the purpose of the alcohol was not to sterilize, but to wet the feathers to see the injection site better. Make sense?

-Kathy
 
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