Wow, that sounds terrible, Lorilyn Farms. I think I read that Ideal doesn't drop ship, and they raise their own stock. Could be there's too much in-breeding at least for some breeds, and that it has resulted in some bad genetic defects. Looks like I'll just have to wait and see what happens with the chicks I ordered. All I can do is give them the best possible brooding environment and let Nature take its course.