Shamo? Anyone.

[lualshannon]

3 & 8 wk. old Ko Shamo. I love and adore these tiny, magnificent intelligent birds.
Walt Leonard-Fowlman01-birds.

 

[QueenMisha]

Though can't get as tall as a Malay they are heavy big muscly birds being the smartest breed, can be taught easily, can come on call however you have to keep young stags away from the cocks for the cocks sake haha as they're a slow maturing breed the stag are smaller and faster yet just as aggressive as a cock. They are a very beautiful breed. As an ancient breed they were used for the beginning of cockfighting against the massive breed Malay which can grow up to a whopping 90cm they sometimes can be hard to breed as they could crush eggs and aren't very prolific unless you get a diluted blood these days.

Shamo fighting

Malay cock.

Again, these are not my birds sadly I wish as they are my favorite breeds I've ever worked with.

I love that first pic so much. It was my computer background pic for a while actually. Of course it's not a good thing when they fight since I'd rather have the birds healthy and uninjured, but there is something so awesome (in the original sense of the word) about watching two cocks going at it. I never let my games fight because that doesn't end well, but if I see two of my layer/DP Roos fighting out in the yard I leave them to it and watch, since I know those boys are hardly game and will give up as soon as they get a decent bite into their comb or wattles. Still... feels like watching something out a nature documentary.

 

[dsfrango]

My newest flock addition. He's about 25in tall already under a yr old. I got 2 hens with him so I can begin breeding. The 2 hens are pure black and this guy has a little red leakage on his neck. Is that easy to breed out if I end up wanting to show them?

Thanks,

 

[Illia]

They're very easy to breed, however raising depends on where you are. In colder climates, they require TLC through heat lamps, etc. Though who knows, they may make it. Out where I am, temps rarely exceed 75 degrees, and in the winter are always around 35-45. It doesn't get freezing too often, and my Shamos are out 24/7 in whatever nature gives them. . . But I do have some heatlamps in their coop.

With their slow growth, they require certain things like enough room to roam so their bones and legs grow properly, broad perches to prevent bent breastbone issues, and slow set perches to prevent fractures. They get leggy, and they don't stop growing well beyond 8 months, so there's a decent amount of care that goes into them, like any other large breed.

Otherwise, they're very good foragers, they're pretty broody and not only make good mothers but also flock protectors, and they're great vermin control too!

My only pair for the moment follow me around all over the place, the stag especially. I don't think I've known a more friendly, intelligent, and calm breed. But, one thing is certain - Do not have males together. Even if you've got a young stag and a larger, older breed with spurs beyond an inch long. . . . The one to worry about is the larger rooster.

I think everything is a pro, except the inability to keep males together (which to many, doesn't matter) and the care they need, which is needed for any large breed, really. To my very limited experience, they also make good meat projects when crossed with more "normal" postured breeds, especially large ones. Despite their skinny appearance, Shamos are very well muscled, and feel like a brick. Even as a young 2 week old chick, they feel like little rocks compared to other chicks. Put a little more horizontal stature and general compact size in there, and you've got a very Cornish-looking bird.

 

[FrozenChef]

Thanks! Now I see that some hatcheries say they have "shamo" but I have been told they are usaully crossed with something. How would I find a good hatchery or what I would rather do is find a Breeder.

 

[enggass]

I believe Illia (above post) is a Shamo breeder. I know she sells Shamo eggs in the auction area.
Steve

 

[Illia]

Some hatcheries claim they have them, but they only offer this claim through mixed assortments and the sort. I've even asked a couple and they apologized for putting the claim, as they actually didn't carry them.

Still, I say go with a breeder. I've yet to see an Oriental Gamefowl of any sort come out of a hatchery and look or act like one.

I will admit, I've got some hatching eggs up for auction ending soon, but there's also several other people here who've much more experience in this wonderful breed than I.

 

[FrozenChef]

Yeah I'm new to the whole raising show poultry, and I think hatching eggs are out of my skills at the moment lol. I haven't found a website for shamos. is there not one? like the Ameraucanas have one.

 

[Oldhound]

Shamo info available on The Ultimate Fowl Forum

 

[pinkchick]

Bring on the Shamo Talk!!!!!!!!!!!

I loves me these birds...lot and lots of stuff! Can't wait to get some started birds from Illia! I'm so excited to have the chance to raise some of these magnificant birds. Something about them just pulls at me very hard...I must have them.