shipping hatching eggs???

[MomMommyMamma]

I have never seen a listing here or on eBay, or anywhere else I've looked, with all of this info about each state, what's it all about? Below is a quote from this listing .

Per the list that I have from my NPIP representative, the following states can bid, as they don't require a special permit beyond just the vs-9-3 form:

Alabama, California, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wyoming. (Oh, and also Missouri since I live in Missouri and don't need permission to ship within my own state).

I have requested a permit from Minnesota but don't have it yet- have to have it so I can send my second tester her eggs. Next week I'll be pestering Florida and South Carolina for their permit applications.

Is this info. that every person shipping fertile eggs is supposed to have or is it based on the state the shipper lives in or do you have to contact all 50 states and meet their requirements? Goodness

 

[Katy]

It's not for out of country eggs. It's for shipping from state to state.

There's some good info on this thread about the legal way to go about shipping eggs.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5865990#p5865990

 

[Katy]

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Is this info. that every person shipping fertile eggs is supposed to have or is it based on the state the shipper lives in or do you have to contact all 50 states and meet their requirements? Goodness

There are rules and regs for every state to import and export and they vary from one to the next.

 

[destiny_56085]

Not just technically.... If you want to maintain your NPIP status and hatchery permit, you have to follow their rules. Even if you aren't NPIP, you still have to follow each state's laws from their Board of Animal Health for importing/exporting. The rules are different for each state. Some require just NPIP paperwork, some require additional testing for AI and/or MS/MG, some want a CVI, and some require an import permit too. Here is a list of what each state requires: http://www.bah.state.mn.us/animals/poultry/exports.html If they catch you sending/transporting across state lines without paperwork, they will usually give you a warning at first. Could possibly hold the birds/eggs in quarantine at your own cost until tested. You could also possibly face stiff fines from the state too.

 

[destiny_56085]

The USPS and airports are not the ones in charge of enforcing it. That's not their job.. They will get notices that pop up on their computers saying that certain states are blocking shipments though. Its the BAH that questions the paperwork when the NPIP forms are sent in.

I have a friend that does the blood testing for one of the major exotic sales up here. Its fairly close to state lines, so yes all those documents have to be in place for out of state birds to be sold there. Same thing goes for any critters going out of there that might possibly cross state lines.

I helped the show secretary for one of our major poultry shows last fall. The BAH was on our butts hardcore about any out of state birds having proper paperwork. If we didn't comply, our show was going to be shut down... The BAH did show up in suit and tie just before judging started too to check all paperwork.

I know from personal experience that I tried shipping chicks to Hawaii last year. I had to fill out a 10 page questionaire for an import permit. They are majorly concerned with us affecting their natural populations, disease threat, etc. I know I also can't ship to Virginia. The post office blocks shipments if you don't have all the proper paperwork. I am NPIP but for PT only. I am not forking out for AI and MS/MG testing too. Getting a buyer to pay for a CVI (cert. of vet inspection) is also very spendy. So I just refuse to ship there now... I've heard that CA has been blocking shipments lately. Someone on another thread from WA just got a letter about not complying with all the avian influenza testing before receiving birds.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

someone is going overboard

 

[wsdareme]

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Unfortunately, they are NOT going overboard. You need to read this post: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=463442&p=1

There are some states that have really clamped down and if import eggs or birds from out of state you can get in a peck of trouble. WA and VA seem to be the worst. At least one of our BYCers has been given a warning.

I will be thrilled to see sellers posting that kind of information when they sell their eggs and birds. I live in WA and will need to have documentation that shows that what I'm bringing in to the state has been tested negative for PT and AI.

This is the way things are probably going to be in the future for many of us...

 

[MomMommyMamma]

I know I may be sounding a little childish in saying this, but man some things just suck the fun right out of having a small flock.

And I think if regs are truly tightened, there will be few who can afford to sell or buy eggs with the added costs.
When we popped up MS+ it shocked me since we had no sick birds and had bought only from NPIP sellers, but one of the very first things I thought about was the sheer number of eggs being bought & sold online by individuals. One breeder, who has no idea their flock are carriers could easily send infected eggs all over the country and neither buyer, nor seller, nor government official would be the wiser.

 

[rancher hicks]

When I came back from out of state I had paperwork from the person whose eggs I brought back but I just considered it a formality I didnt' even look at it. I'm not sure I still have it but I thought it was an NPIP thing. I did show it to the TSA people and they never really looked at it.

Here you must be NPIP certified to show and its done for free. Someone posted that there have been no cases of Pull.... in years. That it was not something to stress in the testing about.

What happens in MN is just that and may not apply to every state. Or does it? State laws do not cover every state and Federal laws do.

I haven't read my Poultry newsletter lately about a change in laws. Certainly this is something that should be written about in Back Yard Poultry magazine.

I haven't seen any law postings at the TSC or Country Max and they're selling chicks. What's up with that?

It's also something that should be posted in every Hatchery catalog and site then shouldn't it? These places sell hatching eggs too.

So mommommymamma since you brought it up perhaps you could write letters to all these venues and help us all out. I don't mean that snarky but I have other things on the agenda and taking up this fight is not one of them. The repercussions are huge to say the least.

Every auction and swap meet and small back yard holder will take a hit. Every science project in every elementary school and every 4-H club will have more work and people will just say forget it. Especially if they have to pay for all this testing. Please make sure you let the authorities know when you write them.

If we think the states have no money for the programs they have now, just think of how much they'll have for this testing program. The cost we pay for a test will not cover the cost of wages and travel expenses for testers to come to every farm and backyard coop. Heck they can't even get the USDA to test the food we have now.

Sorry but that's just how I see it.

 

[MomMommyMamma]

So then, technically, everyone shipping hatching eggs should be doing this?