The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

[Pyxis]

Argh. I give up. After hatching a couple of batches of cemani eggs I conclude that there are no cemani hens. Just roos. Cemani eggs just spontaneously appear. I've raised ten roos (Or some very butch hens). Could this be an incubator temp issue? Like crocodilians temp of incubating eggs determines gender? Or do I have karmic odds and should go straight to Vegas?

That's just bad luck! The gender of the eggs isn't determined by temperature. I have the opposite problem - when I first started I could only hatch pullets for the life of me. I'm still have issues with getting roosters

 

[bauerdog]

That's just bad luck! The gender of the eggs isn't determined by temperature. I have the opposite problem - when I first started I could only hatch pullets for the life of me. I'm still have issues with getting roosters

I have extras here in jersey! It looks like @cjwaldon sends me EXACTLY 50% of each. So three pullets and 3 cockerels here!

 

[Pyxis]

I have extras here in jersey! It looks like @cjwaldon sends me EXACTLY 50% of each. So three pullets and 3 cockerels here!

Hey, if you have extras you want to get rid of, send 'em my way, I'll take them

 

[bauerdog]

Hey, if you have extras you want to get rid of, send 'em my way, I'll take them

We may be talking soon! The one cockerel is from Labor Day hatch and he sure is handsome. The other two hatched Black Friday. I will let them grow out some more and post pics for review

 

[birdman55]

Birdman here obviously something to say. Lol. So Msu is directing the question to a poultry specialist. And other universities are getting involved as well like Perdue. So I reached out just waiting for responses. Also the black chickens are svart hona that are cleaned and just wanted to share this is what I mean from charcoal to green sheen. Also done hatching for a bit

 

[cjwaldon]

Birdman here obviously something to say. Lol. So Msu is directing the question to a poultry specialist. And other universities are getting involved as well like Perdue. So I reached out just waiting for responses.

 

[cjwaldon]

I have three broodies again, dutifully keeping my eating eggs from freezing throughout our negative digits. I just don't have the heart to put them in the broody buster when it's this cold. These girls just won't quit.

 

[mich9510]

Here's my fibro flock. Still don't know who's an AC and who's a SH. They're about 15 weeks old. I know they're far from SOP but I plan on working on that (as soon as I figure out who's who lol)

 

[cjwaldon]

Brian Lee found this video.

Greyridge Poultry got us the translation to the video, here is what is said,

"Chickens which are considered to be the most common livestock in Indonesia, is a type of bird whose eggs and meat is used to complement people's dietary needs. Chickens are direct descendants of one of the subspecies of the jungle fowl referred to as the red jungle fowl or its Latin name Gallus gallus or bankiva chicken.
Cross breeding of chickens has led to hundreds of superior breeds or pure breeds serving various purposes. The most common breed is the broiler chicken or laying hens. Uniqueness in chickens occur when the chicken has a physical appearance different to those of other common chickens.
One example would be the cemani chicken or the jet black chicken of Indonesia. Surprisingly, the chicken that is considered by our society as a mystical chicken, actually has a huge market in the United States.

Furthermore, a Florida based farming company,Greenfire Farm has managed to gain a large profit due to the increase in demand of this exotic chicken due to its fully jet black body. Just imagine, a freshly laid cemani egg is priced at $200 USD, or Rp 2.9 million. Yes, that's almost Rp 3 million. That price is considered to be extravagant, as in Indonesia, one Cemani egg is only priced at Rp 200 thousand.

How unique is the cemani chicken? More information to follow...

The first unique fact of cemani chicken is where these chickens originate from. It turns out these black skinned chickens fall under the kedu chicken breed which is a local breed that is raised in Kedu, Magelang. During the Majapahit Kingdom era, these chickens were considered to be a special kind of chicken which led to many people wanting to raise them, including the kings during that period.

There are several types of kedu chicken. The first is the black kedu chicken, whose whole body and feathers are black in color, with only its comb and cloaca that are red.
The next is the cemanikedu chicken, or jet black chicken which will be the focus of our discussion right now. Its whole body and fur are black in color with no exception, including their flesh and bones.

Next is the white kedu chicken that has white body and fur. The last is the red kedu chicken, that has black feathers and a red comb.
According to history, this local breed was bred by CokroMiharjo in 1924.

There are several myths surrounding the cemani chicken. First of all, these black chickens are believed by society to be able to bring fortune. Other than its unique appearance as a chicken, it is believed that these chickens would bring luck to those who raise them. Next, the cemani chicken is believed to serve as offering for supernatural rituals. Yes, not only do they bring luck, these chickens are also believed to possess strong magical and mystical forces. This is of course due to the strong traditional values held by society that still holds a strong belief towards the mystical.

What makes the cemani chicken special, first of all, is that it is mystical. That it would bring about safety towards projects, safety towards the construction of houses, and protect our homes and so forth.

Aside from that, the cemani chicken could also be used as offering to the earth, sea, mountain or crater, as a part of a ritual to wash ancient heirloom, ritual to warden off misfortune or even as a part of a matchmaking ritual.

Horned animals that we usually encounter are usually cows, buffaloes or goats. However, a horn is also possessed by a cemani chicken owned by one of the residents of Purwodadi Village, Margoyoso District, Pati - Central Java. On top of its head is a horn that differentiates it from other chickens. This cemani chicken is owned by Sandi Heriyono, a resident of Purwodadi Village, Margoyoso District, Pati Region. According to him, the horn grows above its beak near its comb which resembles the chicken spur that normally grows on the foot of a male rooster. Due to its unique appearance, this cemani chicken has raised the curiosity of the residents to look at it from up close. Meanwhile Sandi Hariyono explained that in his four years of raising chickens, this is the first time that he has encountered a horned chicken such as the one that he owns.
Ladies and gentlemen, those are several unique facts of the black-skinned cemani chicken. Hopefully the information has been insightful."

 

[birdman55]

So who has a pic of the black horn....I guess I'm going to have to chop a head off n check.