The coyotes are back
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Sounds expensive though
Lol no, we had/have those too. Those just click, not scary at all
It was a white noise, like a radio static. It was supposed to hurt their ears or something? Ha-ha, I'm going to have to ask what they're actually called...Edit* aha! These! Ultrasonic...
http://www.qvc.com/qvc.product.H364...pla&CAAGID=34403997747&CATCI=pla-264550168942
They're not that expensive, it seems
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The clicking sound be more effective than many realize. Sound may not just be around charger.
Well I suppose if they got zapped by the fence and correlated the sound to it, then they would avoid the fence, but... They don't get zapped by a typical electric fence; they go under it.
Really, its more of a background noise once they've heard constant popping 24 hours a day. I'm just speaking from experience of them going right by the charger in the pasture and not even batting an eyelash.
However, I queried the one who would know everything I don't about this subject: dear ol Dad
Ok, so Dad says (and he has 70+ years of this sheep/coyote business to back him up, so nobody usually argues with Dad
) "Dog. Get a dog." He had a Commondor(sp?)when I was little, and she literally slept in the pasture with the sheep. Big ol curly haired thing lol; she was his best deterrent.
Second, the llamas he has now. Evidently they're pretty good coyote defense
3rd, the solar powered ultrasonic one. He was bummed that he couldn't find them anymore. That's why the ones still hanging on the fence posts are in such disrepair(aha!). He was stoked to hear that they are still being made, so yay, made an impossible to please old rancher pretty happy.
4th, he actually has the solar powered deterrent with the red light. "Cost $19 bucks. Lasts forever. Don't like it" lol ok...
So I would say try the ultrasonic one if you can't get a dog or a llama.
My coyotes are not capable of going under fencing that is only six inched above the ground (based on observations). Red Fox cannot do it either. Mine go past charger as well while it clicks and shorts in fence pop. The sound simply lets them know the fence is hot. If they know they will not be as vested in getting past it.
Six inches? Oh. Well, I guess just about anything woukd get tripped up by a wire six inches off the ground.... But now I'm curious; what are you fencing in at 6 inches? Chickens?
I meant "typical", as in typical electric fence around the cow pasture. That's at 3 feet, and they run right under it.
Makes sense that at 6 inches they've definitely been zapped and probably remember the sound. Just not so sure that the ones around here give a hoot about the 3' electric fence lol
Oh, but I also just remembered, there's a motion activated water repellant too... It sprays water at whatever gets close. Not sure it would work at night though. I think I saw that in a gardening magazine, to keep critters out of the garden. Wonder if coyotes like being sprayed with water?
I meant "typical", as in typical electric fence around the cow pasture. That's at 3 feet, and they run right under it.
Makes sense that at 6 inches they've definitely been zapped and probably remember the sound. Just not so sure that the ones around here give a hoot about the 3' electric fence lol
Oh, but I also just remembered, there's a motion activated water repellant too... It sprays water at whatever gets close. Not sure it would work at night though. I think I saw that in a gardening magazine, to keep critters out of the garden. Wonder if coyotes like being sprayed with water?
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This is a poultry site. Fencing as described not for poultry in.
This is starting to sound like a convers
This is starting to sound like a conversation I recently had with lady I'm married to. She didn't like being told "you are not listening" either.
You are confusing a cattle / horse/ maybe sheep fence with a poultry electric fence designed to keep chickens in and predators out. Yes, most predators would happily run around under one of those. But we are not talking about a cattle / horse / maybe sheep fence designed only to keep those livestock in. We are talking about a poultry / predator fence. That is a different thing entirely. The four wires I currently have up are set at 5 inches, 10 inches, 15 inches and 20 inches. That fence has pretty much stopped all traffic in or out, and that now includes deer**. So yes, chickens get zapped by it and avoid going near it. Predators, including dogs and cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, foxes and coyotes also get zapped by it and also quickly learn to avoid it. So a properly designed electric fence becomes the silent sentinel that nothing wants to mess with.
I asked my folks a while back how they kept chickens safe back in the day (they are both +/- 90 years of age) and they said everyone kept a mean yard dog. My dad has told me when he was over to visit my mother he got attacked by their dog more times than he could remember. So no varmints came around. BTW, back then, there were a lot fewer varmints to begin with. They had a bounty on coyotes, so they had been all but eliminated. Not many coons or other varmints either. They were all shot on sight. Times were tough and chickens were a reliable source of food, so they didn't mess around. They would have used an electric fence too, but they didn't have one back then. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but frankly I would not want the liability inherent in keeping such a mean yard dog. At least not when I have available to me the effective deterrent of that electric fence. It only bites what touches it. A good thing.
** On that low electric fence and deer, a while back I was gone for a week, so the birds were kept locked up. Since they were locked up, I turned off the electric fence. Inside that protected area is a patch of fall turnips, which to a deer must be more addictive than crack to a crackhead. When I got back it looked like a Texas cattle drive had gone through there. So I fired up the fence and that has all stopped. Not a single track since. They tend to visit after dark and either walk straight into the light wire they have trouble seeing, or else try to step over it and it hits them in the belly. There were more than a few dents put into it and wires loosened. But the learning curve with a really hot fence is pretty short.
Electric fences really do work, but you have to adapt the right fence to the right condition.
Six inches? Oh. Well, I guess just about anything woukd get tripped up by a wire six inches off the ground.... But now I'm curious; what are you fencing in at 6 inches? Chickens?
I meant "typical", as in typical electric fence around the cow pasture. That's at 3 feet, and they run right under it.
Makes sense that at 6 inches they've definitely been zapped and probably remember the sound. Just not so sure that the ones around here give a hoot about the 3' electric fence lol
Oh, but I also just remembered, there's a motion activated water repellant too... It sprays water at whatever gets close. Not sure it would work at night though. I think I saw that in a gardening magazine, to keep critters out of the garden. Wonder if coyotes like being sprayed with water?
This is starting to sound like a conversation I recently had with lady I'm married to. She didn't like being told "you are not listening" either.
You are confusing a cattle / horse/ maybe sheep fence with a poultry electric fence designed to keep chickens in and predators out. Yes, most predators would happily run around under one of those. But we are not talking about a cattle / horse / maybe sheep fence designed only to keep those livestock in. We are talking about a poultry / predator fence. That is a different thing entirely. The four wires I currently have up are set at 5 inches, 10 inches, 15 inches and 20 inches. That fence has pretty much stopped all traffic in or out, and that now includes deer**. So yes, chickens get zapped by it and avoid going near it. Predators, including dogs and cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, foxes and coyotes also get zapped by it and also quickly learn to avoid it. So a properly designed electric fence becomes the silent sentinel that nothing wants to mess with.
I asked my folks a while back how they kept chickens safe back in the day (they are both +/- 90 years of age) and they said everyone kept a mean yard dog. My dad has told me when he was over to visit my mother he got attacked by their dog more times than he could remember. So no varmints came around. BTW, back then, there were a lot fewer varmints to begin with. They had a bounty on coyotes, so they had been all but eliminated. Not many coons or other varmints either. They were all shot on sight. Times were tough and chickens were a reliable source of food, so they didn't mess around. They would have used an electric fence too, but they didn't have one back then. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but frankly I would not want the liability inherent in keeping such a mean yard dog. At least not when I have available to me the effective deterrent of that electric fence. It only bites what touches it. A good thing.
** On that low electric fence and deer, a while back I was gone for a week, so the birds were kept locked up. Since they were locked up, I turned off the electric fence. Inside that protected area is a patch of fall turnips, which to a deer must be more addictive than crack to a crackhead. When I got back it looked like a Texas cattle drive had gone through there. So I fired up the fence and that has all stopped. Not a single track since. They tend to visit after dark and either walk straight into the light wire they have trouble seeing, or else try to step over it and it hits them in the belly. There were more than a few dents put into it and wires loosened. But the learning curve with a really hot fence is pretty short.
Electric fences really do work, but you have to adapt the right fence to the right condition.
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Lol well probably because that's what I was originally talking about, a fence line for CATTLE and SHEEP that had a box on it that made noise for coyotes. The fence I was talking about was not for chickens, see?
And lol, my chicken run has an electric fence on it, at 5', above the fence. I know they work or I wouldn't have them
6 inches sounded more like a tripping hazard to me, so please do excuse my huge ignorance in asking why someone would put a fence at 6", I figured a chicken would hop right over it. Again, apologies for being what I asse you're saying is "argumentative". I was trying to envision something.
I thought the point was the clicking sound anyway, TBH I don't care where the fence is, it was the noise we were discussing.
I'll politely bow out now, no more " wifey" trying to be gabby
And lol, my chicken run has an electric fence on it, at 5', above the fence. I know they work or I wouldn't have them
6 inches sounded more like a tripping hazard to me, so please do excuse my huge ignorance in asking why someone would put a fence at 6", I figured a chicken would hop right over it. Again, apologies for being what I asse you're saying is "argumentative". I was trying to envision something.
I thought the point was the clicking sound anyway, TBH I don't care where the fence is, it was the noise we were discussing.
I'll politely bow out now, no more " wifey" trying to be gabby
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