Hello all, hoping to get some advice from those of you with more experience than I . . . this is my first year raising chickens! This form us so full of knowledge surely someone can help . . . so, on with the story . . . sorry if I'm a bit long-winded
I recently purchased 10 RIR hens from a local farm to add to my existing flock of 11 Delawares and 8 RIR/BR's.
I kept the new 10 sectioned off from the others as I've read is proper to do when introducing new birds. They could visually see each other but shared no water or food. Kept them in the separate pen for just over 3 weeks and let them out when the weather got nice. All seemed well.
A few days after integrating the new 10 I noticed one of my existing RIR's, a younger pullet (~4 mos) was sneezing and shaking its head alot. The next day it was huddled up in some hay on the floor of the coop, with raspy/gurgling breathing and a huge amount of snot around its beak. It was barely hanging on. This was on Sunday morning. I removed from the coop, put it out of its misery and threw in the trash, hoping I would be keeping the others from getting whatever illness it had.
It's now Wednesday and most of the rest of my flock are showing similar symptoms in various severities:
Sneezing/shaking head alot
Lots of snot/drainage
Raspy/gurgling breathing
Bubbly mucus in eyes
Some have one eye shut (no visible swelling though)
Mouth always open with neck extended
Blood/snot spots on back, where they wipe their beaks, also some blood spots on the walls of coop & waterer
None of the new 10 have shown any symptoms . . . only my existing flock.
I've been doing alot of research the last several days, does this sound to you like ILT? I think perhaps the new 10 had it at some point and survived, or were vaccinated and were ILT carriers not showing any symptoms? The incubation period for ILT is ~2 weeks after exposure so it makes sense time-wise, and since the new 10 appear healthy, it seems a logical conclusion?
Other than the one I culled myself none have died yet, but there are a couple that look pretty darn sick. At 11pm last night when I went to close up the coop one of my roo's eyes were so full of crusty mucus he was just standing outside, I'm sure he couldn't see anything, had no idea where he was, I had to carry him inside & place on the roost. He's hopped down from the roost now but still showing strong symptoms, I put some water & food in front of him but not sure if he's touched them yet.
Can't say for sure whether egg production has dropped. The new 10 are still laying as they were before, the existing Delawares haven't been producing much since the weather got cold anyway, and existing RIR's are young (~4 mos) and haven't started yet.
I considered segregating the sick ones but as I said, virtually all except the new 10 are showing symptoms (some less than others) so I figure it's too late now.
So here's a few questions:
1. I've been collecting eggs for the 'bater since Sunday just in case we have to start over. Is there any danger the eggs will be infected as well? Do I need to get eggs elsewhere?
2. I don't mind having to cull the entire flock. It would really, really suck but I'll do it if necessary. My question is whether the birds would be OK to clean, dress & stick in the freezer? Would hate to have them all go to waste. I'd love to can or freeze them if it's OK. As I understand it ILT is not communicable to humans.
I've tried contacting the county extension office for advice but they're closed until Monday. Put a call in to my vet but haven't heard back yet.
Thanks everyone for the read, your comments and opinions are welcome!
I recently purchased 10 RIR hens from a local farm to add to my existing flock of 11 Delawares and 8 RIR/BR's.
I kept the new 10 sectioned off from the others as I've read is proper to do when introducing new birds. They could visually see each other but shared no water or food. Kept them in the separate pen for just over 3 weeks and let them out when the weather got nice. All seemed well.
A few days after integrating the new 10 I noticed one of my existing RIR's, a younger pullet (~4 mos) was sneezing and shaking its head alot. The next day it was huddled up in some hay on the floor of the coop, with raspy/gurgling breathing and a huge amount of snot around its beak. It was barely hanging on. This was on Sunday morning. I removed from the coop, put it out of its misery and threw in the trash, hoping I would be keeping the others from getting whatever illness it had.
It's now Wednesday and most of the rest of my flock are showing similar symptoms in various severities:
Sneezing/shaking head alot
Lots of snot/drainage
Raspy/gurgling breathing
Bubbly mucus in eyes
Some have one eye shut (no visible swelling though)
Mouth always open with neck extended
Blood/snot spots on back, where they wipe their beaks, also some blood spots on the walls of coop & waterer
None of the new 10 have shown any symptoms . . . only my existing flock.
I've been doing alot of research the last several days, does this sound to you like ILT? I think perhaps the new 10 had it at some point and survived, or were vaccinated and were ILT carriers not showing any symptoms? The incubation period for ILT is ~2 weeks after exposure so it makes sense time-wise, and since the new 10 appear healthy, it seems a logical conclusion?
Other than the one I culled myself none have died yet, but there are a couple that look pretty darn sick. At 11pm last night when I went to close up the coop one of my roo's eyes were so full of crusty mucus he was just standing outside, I'm sure he couldn't see anything, had no idea where he was, I had to carry him inside & place on the roost. He's hopped down from the roost now but still showing strong symptoms, I put some water & food in front of him but not sure if he's touched them yet.
Can't say for sure whether egg production has dropped. The new 10 are still laying as they were before, the existing Delawares haven't been producing much since the weather got cold anyway, and existing RIR's are young (~4 mos) and haven't started yet.
I considered segregating the sick ones but as I said, virtually all except the new 10 are showing symptoms (some less than others) so I figure it's too late now.
So here's a few questions:
1. I've been collecting eggs for the 'bater since Sunday just in case we have to start over. Is there any danger the eggs will be infected as well? Do I need to get eggs elsewhere?
2. I don't mind having to cull the entire flock. It would really, really suck but I'll do it if necessary. My question is whether the birds would be OK to clean, dress & stick in the freezer? Would hate to have them all go to waste. I'd love to can or freeze them if it's OK. As I understand it ILT is not communicable to humans.
I've tried contacting the county extension office for advice but they're closed until Monday. Put a call in to my vet but haven't heard back yet.
Thanks everyone for the read, your comments and opinions are welcome!