Have some chicks in the brooder that a couple are pooping blood,pretty runny,too. Any ideas what this may be??
Chicks pooping blood?
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Yelp, sounds like Cocci to me. You need to get them on Corrid. Some people use Sulmet but it is not as affective as the Corrid is. What are you feeding them? I would feed medicated chick starter.
ETA: more info:
Coccidiosis is a disease caused by microscopic protozoans (one-celled organisms) called Coccidia that affect fowl worldwide. It is generally found in the terminal ileum, caecum, and rectum of chickens. Mortality and morbidity is variable with this disease. Although there are many species of coccidia that can infect fowl, domestic animals, and humans each species is host specific. After an outbreak of a specific species of coccidia, the flock will develop a resistance to the exposed coccidia species but remain resistant to other infective species. Chickens are susceptible to any of nine coccidia species, turkeys are susceptible to seven species, and quail to four.
Signs
Coccidiosis is seldom seen in chicks under 3 weeks old, but usually seen in growing birds or young adult fowl.
Signs:
Droopy feathers
Poor production
Ruffled feathers
Closed eyes
Diarrhea
Pale face
Paralysis
Blood in feces
Transmission:
Coccidiosis is transmitted by direct or indirect contact with droppings of infected birds. When a bird ingests coccidia, the organisms invade the lining of the intestine and produce tissue damage as they undergo reproduction. Within a week after infection, the coccidia shed immature descendants that are referred to as oocysts. The oocysts shed in the droppings are not capable of infecting another bird unless they pass through a maturation process (sporulation) in the litter. This sporulation occurs within a one to three day period if the litter is warm and damp but can take much longer if the conditions are cool and dry. After sporulation the coccidia are infective if consumed by a new host bird.
Diagnosis:
Since it is common for some healthy birds to possess some coccidia, flock history must be taken into consideration before an acurate diagnosis can be made. Coccidiosis cannot be prevented by sanitation alone and therefore certain measurements need to be taken with coccidiostats.
Treatment:
There are a number of coccidostats available, however these should be used precisely. These include Toltrazuril, Sulphonamides, Amprolium. Vitamins Vitamin A and Vitamin K in feed, or water as coccidosis cannot be treated by hygiene alone.
ETA: more info:
Coccidiosis is a disease caused by microscopic protozoans (one-celled organisms) called Coccidia that affect fowl worldwide. It is generally found in the terminal ileum, caecum, and rectum of chickens. Mortality and morbidity is variable with this disease. Although there are many species of coccidia that can infect fowl, domestic animals, and humans each species is host specific. After an outbreak of a specific species of coccidia, the flock will develop a resistance to the exposed coccidia species but remain resistant to other infective species. Chickens are susceptible to any of nine coccidia species, turkeys are susceptible to seven species, and quail to four.
Signs
Coccidiosis is seldom seen in chicks under 3 weeks old, but usually seen in growing birds or young adult fowl.
Signs:
Droopy feathers
Poor production
Ruffled feathers
Closed eyes
Diarrhea
Pale face
Paralysis
Blood in feces
Transmission:
Coccidiosis is transmitted by direct or indirect contact with droppings of infected birds. When a bird ingests coccidia, the organisms invade the lining of the intestine and produce tissue damage as they undergo reproduction. Within a week after infection, the coccidia shed immature descendants that are referred to as oocysts. The oocysts shed in the droppings are not capable of infecting another bird unless they pass through a maturation process (sporulation) in the litter. This sporulation occurs within a one to three day period if the litter is warm and damp but can take much longer if the conditions are cool and dry. After sporulation the coccidia are infective if consumed by a new host bird.
Diagnosis:
Since it is common for some healthy birds to possess some coccidia, flock history must be taken into consideration before an acurate diagnosis can be made. Coccidiosis cannot be prevented by sanitation alone and therefore certain measurements need to be taken with coccidiostats.
Treatment:
There are a number of coccidostats available, however these should be used precisely. These include Toltrazuril, Sulphonamides, Amprolium. Vitamins Vitamin A and Vitamin K in feed, or water as coccidosis cannot be treated by hygiene alone.
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I had 2 Silkies in the same crate and after finishing the Silkie hen house - I have another for standard-sized birds, I put the Silkies in and ran out the next morning to see if they made it through the night all right. They did, and when I turned around to leave the hen house, there was a large spot of blood on the floor. I found the chick that had the problem - caked blood/poo on her little downy hiney
and then took her inside along with her sister. I put them both in a clean crate with pine shavings, water and food. She just got into a 'nesting' position and her little head drooped until it was on the pine shavings. The other little chick chirped over her and laid its head over her neck, then got up and went round and round the sick one, nudging it with it's little head, trying to make it stand up, but it wouldn't. I thought she was going to die :O( so was up until after midnight checking on her every 15 minutes or so. She just continued to rest in that same position with her eyes closed, so finally I went to bed and the next morning I got up and she was eating and drinking, although I saw her stumble twice. After that she got strong and had a complete recovery. I have no idea what the problem was, but I am so relieved she didn't die. (I THINK it is a 'she') - I think she swallowed a pine chip.
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Well after I got in the car & left,I thought "DUH!! It's cocci!!"
They are on medicated chick starter,too.
They are on medicated chick starter,too.
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Speckledhen has said that she'd been finding that the medicated feed isn't sufficient for the newer strains of cocci. Being that we fed our adults medicaled feed as chicks, and still lost one to cocci, I would agree. Treat with Corid instead of Sulmet.
Speckledhen has said that she'd been finding that the medicated feed isn't sufficient for the newer strains of cocci. Being that we fed our adults medicaled feed as chicks, and still lost one to cocci, I would agree. Treat with Corid instead of Sulmet.
Chick starter just contains a coccidiostat - not a coccidiocide. In other words, it's designed to discourage blooms of cocci - not prevent a problem completely or kill cocci. Really it should only help stem bigger problems, allowing the birds to develop some of their own immunity. Which it does.
Probiotics (probios, fastrack, YeaSac, yogurt, acidophilus capsules) will help the natural immunity and also help the birds get healthier during your treatment for coccidiosis. But it's not a treatment.
Organic apple cider vinegar also provides some additional (not complete) gut bacteria and helps the gut to get to a pH good for good bacteria, bad for pathogen blooms and bad bacteria. Also not a treatment but part of a whole remedy.
You'll find lots of other information here abotu coccidiosis. Just note that cocciosis starts way before the bloody stage. Too many people rule out coccidiosis because 'there's no blood'. Often, however, a chocolate pudding like poop, orangey or rusty colored poop, and/or mucus and stringiness are our first indications that the infestation with the cocci has already happened.
Probiotics (probios, fastrack, YeaSac, yogurt, acidophilus capsules) will help the natural immunity and also help the birds get healthier during your treatment for coccidiosis. But it's not a treatment.
Organic apple cider vinegar also provides some additional (not complete) gut bacteria and helps the gut to get to a pH good for good bacteria, bad for pathogen blooms and bad bacteria. Also not a treatment but part of a whole remedy.
You'll find lots of other information here abotu coccidiosis. Just note that cocciosis starts way before the bloody stage. Too many people rule out coccidiosis because 'there's no blood'. Often, however, a chocolate pudding like poop, orangey or rusty colored poop, and/or mucus and stringiness are our first indications that the infestation with the cocci has already happened.
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Chicken poop... Is this normal?
Most of our chicks have well formed poop with a whitish colored cap but one of these chicks, not sure which one yet, is pooping a thick brownish color. It has no form but it's not watery, more like melted caramel and it's a tad bit darker than caramel color as well. I found some literature that said if it was brown and runny it could be E-coli and if it had blood in it it could be cocci. but it's not runny or super dark, so I'm pretty confused. They all seem to be eating and drinking well and I don't see any other signs of distress. Does anyone know if this is normal?
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Most of our chicks have well formed poop with a whitish colored cap but one of these chicks, not sure which one yet, is pooping a thick brownish color. It has no form but it's not watery, more like melted caramel and it's a tad bit darker than caramel color as well. I found some literature that said if it was brown and runny it could be E-coli and if it had blood in it it could be cocci. but it's not runny or super dark, so I'm pretty confused. They all seem to be eating and drinking well and I don't see any other signs of distress. Does anyone know if this is normal?
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I just had sick chicks and treated immediately with yogurt and added some medicated chick starter and also some vitamins. If there's blood in the poop something is definately wrong. I would do something real quick! If you run a search for cocci there are lots of threads on it. The people here are real smart!
I just had sick chicks and treated immediately with yogurt and added some medicated chick starter and also some vitamins. If there's blood in the poop something is definately wrong. I would do something real quick! If you run a search for cocci there are lots of threads on it. The people here are real smart!
If it's a cecal poop, it's normal. If it's all the chick poops, it's not. Cecal poops are those that come from the cecum (a pouch near the anus of the bird) emptying. Its poops have a different consistency, that near what you've stated. If all of his poops are that color he could have coccidiosis (despite the lack of blood, my biggest pet peeve about some online information) or a bacterial infection, or just an upset.
That's usually when I start with probiotics for the whole batch.
If the matter worsens or there's any increase within a half day, I treat with Corid or Sulmet.
That's usually when I start with probiotics for the whole batch.
If the matter worsens or there's any increase within a half day, I treat with Corid or Sulmet.
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