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I believe that requiring citizens to purchase 12 or more chicks, at a time, flies in the face of responcible stewardship. At a time when small urban flocks are making a comeback nationwide most municipalities are over turning ordinances to allow people to keep 4-6 chickens, no roo's. NEW HAMPSHIRE Law on the other hand forces people to by 12 or more chicks. In many cases this then forces owners into a 'illegal' second sale of the 'extra' chicks. Another problem with the law is it doesn't allow for people who already have 12 or more to buy just 1 or 2 a few days later at another venue.

If you are willing to help overturn this law by getting involved please let me know. I am thinking phone calls and emails to our state reps to get a bill drawn up.
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Sale or Gift of Small Quantities. – Chicks, ducklings, goslings, and rabbits younger than 4 weeks of age shall not be sold or offered for sale; raffled; or offered or given as a prize, premium, or advertising device, in quantity of less than 12 birds or animals to an individual person. Source. 1985, 72:1, eff. July 1, 1985.
 
You may want to list municipalities where fewer than 12 chickens are permittted. However, do realize that a requirement to sell a minimum number of chicks often does nt carry through to adult birds. Personally I do not agree woith the idea of minimum numbers at all. It migh make some sense for a person initially getting chickens, but it does not account for someone who want a single pet or someone replacing one or two birds from a small flock.
 
I am not sure what this means......when you go into a TSC store for example and you wish to purchase a rabbit or a few chicks or ducks, is this saying you have to purchase twelve of them as a customer if they are just babies? Or is this for the store to purchase in bulks of at least 12 to offer to their customers?

Chicken Swaps should be put under a whole other venue as these are farmers or hobbyists culling their flocks or herds and selling a few here and there or trading with others for such. People who come to swaps are not there to buy in bulk.....they do that through companies that make a profit at such.

I would be interested in changing any existing laws for such.
 
Pmich10 The NH Law is followed by Agways, TSCs and Grain stores and it does in deed mean that customer can not buy less than 12 chicks at a time. If they are less than 4 weeks old.

I watched a very ticked off lady leave a store again today when the sales person told her and her daughters the law. Until then her kids were getting a new, positive, awesome hobby. So the store lost money and the kids lost a chance to learn about where food comes from, responcibility etc.

I get that chickens need friends etc, but you don't have to buy 2 or more puppies or gold fish etc.
 
lets start here, see what the best way to go about change is. if someone gets info post it for the rest of us.
Cindy
Cynthia M. Heisler
Program Assistant II
NH Dept. of Agriculture, Markets & Food
Division of Animal Industry
25 Capitol St. 2nd. Floor
PO Box 2042
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: 603-271-2404
Fax: 603-271-1109
 
How ridiculous if they force you to buy at least twelve. They are creating the burden of having to many themselves if that is the case.
I was at a TSC store yesterday and one man was all excited he had bought two ducklings.....very young......along with all the necessary supplies.....feeders, feed, fencing, bowls. To me that was a good sale for them. They did not make him buy twelve.......they did not have that many to begin with. What happens then? They can't sell them and they have to be returned or worse yet, destroyed? Housing two, versus housing twelve is a very big difference when it comes to fencing and feed. Where does good ole fashioned common sense kick in when it comes to state bureaucracy? I can see, doing such on a very large scale but come on......this is crazy.

As far as change......this is a change on part of the state doing what they are doing now as you can't even find the word chicken swap on their site.....so they are creating legalities that should not apply to those that are not in the 3000 catagorie.
 
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I was under the impression that you had to buy 12 chicks if you were buying from a hatchery and they had to be shipped.The 12 chick minimum I thought was for warmth for shipping them.If I am 2 hours from home and decide to buy chicks,they are not going to get cold in 2 hours,but if they are shipped overnight they would definetly need to keep warm.
In N.H.,Tony.
 
I posted on the other thread about this also so any one can refer to that post as well

The State is working on reducing the number needed to be purchased, "some " of us are working with the State very hard to get the number reduced and let the swaps go on as we have had them , but seriously what is a license to sell , what is a permit to hold a swap. a lot of Towns require a person to have a permit to hold a yard sale and limit it to how many can be held per year, this is the towns themselves not the state.

If people have permits and a license in place petty jealousies and foolishness can and will be avoided, it can actually be a good thing in the long run.

The Hub of all this is the stores who dont have the proper license/permit to hold the swaps, it really isnt a reflection on the people selling its more the store concern to get what is needed.
This all started with one store asking questions it can be worked through and fixed , please give it a little time.
 

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