Buckeye Breed Thread

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I think a later POL depends on the time of year as cgmccary has said.
For example, chicks hatched late in summer develope over the winter.
During winter there can be more physical stresses (cold, or illnesses) and less nutrition (locked up istead of free ranging, insects & sunshine) and since there is less light, they will not begin laying until the days get longer, despite their age.
In late spring, they will begin laying as the light increases even though the pullets may be 7 months old or more.
Alternately, chicks hatched in late winter, and released in ealy spring to free range, have far more nutrition in grasses and insects and fresh air & sunshine and may lay at 5 months of age.
The spring chicks will develope faster, due to less weather stress and more free ranging & nutrition, lay sooner, but maybe not quite as heavy at that point in their lives, as the late summer pullet that at that same point is 7 months older and has more time to grow, but yet less free ranging & more enviromental stresses.
I think it is 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
A pullet not yet at POL will put on more weight in that she is not putting nutrition & energy into egg making too...
This energy & nutrition could be put into herself.
This late summer hatching may be ideal for meat birds as a result, or for show birds where you would desire a more robust pullet (or cockeral)
On the other hand , one could argue that spring chicks get so much more nutrition and less enviromental stress...so I assume the debate could go either way?
 
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I like hatching in the spring because I have more outside room (we pasture), so the time of year when I have the most birds corresponds to when I have the most room. The poop control on the additional birds is easier too, goes right to the grass.

The downside is my young birds always lose at the county fair, as they are not as mauture as those hatched 5 months earlier, Oct of the prior year.

I like a pullet to get some size before they start laying, from the policy that any animal has an easier time reaching full size if it is not asked to produce young/eggs at an early stage. I am remembering stunted farm cats because they started having kittens at the earliest possible moment.

It should not mention it here, but all my sex-linked Buckeye Roo over Delaware Hens are ALL light colored, which should indicate male. ALL Males? I find that hard to believe. I had read that Buckeye's have the red gene for the sex-link cross. Have I been mis-led? Are some of these light chicks girls?
 
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I sometimes like a later POL because the hen seems to develop better body before laying. It has seemed to me that POL has nothing to do with laying longevity and size of eggs and all that.

Could you expand on this? Why is a more developed body more important--is it a percentage of their adult weight?​

I agree with the comments of both Chickielady and JoAnn _WI_4-H_Mom. A better developed body has better capacity for laying eggs. This is genetic, however, a longer period to reach their potential, IMHO, produces a better hen.

I find it easier to raise chicks in the Spring as at least there is some warmth outside. I'll probably never hatch at the end of October again like I did this past year. It was so difficult transitioning them from indoors to outdoors - never being sure what is too cold & at what age. I vacillate sometimes in selecting my pullets. Although I usually elect to keep the ones with better laying capability, I will also keep some because they are in-between Meat & Egg -- so more keeping with their dual purpose (using the Hogan method which the ALBC outlines in their hand-outs on their website -- I choose this way first before looking at the other things like comb shape or color, slate bar). Then, at least all my hens don't end up looking alike.

I liked the chicks hatched in May because the better body development, but Roy always says anything hatched in May is no good -- but you'll have to get him to expand on this principle of his (Roy is rnau here) -- then perhaps early June. And in showing your birds, it is a lot about timing & conditioning.​
 
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Well, did you need red columbian? Buckeyes are a black tailed red bird, not red columbian.

I don't think so. I am working from a post by RAREROO hopefully linked below

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5211051#p5211051

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Also would a Buckeye Rooster fit into Cat 1, similar to a RIR and produce sex link chicks over a Delaware hen?

RAREROO:
Yes Both a BLRW and a Buckeye on Delaware hens will work


Breeds to Cross chart in the first (stickied) post of that thread, shows Dels in Cat 1. We had no trouble making sex-links with the Speckled Sussex Roo over the Delawares, thought it would be straight forward with the Buckeye too.

So maybe I have all boys, or the color difference between girls and boys just isn't that pronounced on this particular cross.
 
Time and patience will show if these are all boys. I bought some blk sexlinks from MM thinking I'll be sure to get all pullets. Genetics!!! 2 of 5 are cockrels. The boys are barred now but at one day, one was all black and the other had a white spot on his head. IMO sexlinks are not always easy to sort! LOL So maybe you do have some girls in there. GL
 
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I liked the chicks hatched in May because the better body development, but Roy always says anything hatched in May is no good -- but you'll have to get him to expand on this principle of his (Roy is rnau here) -- then perhaps early June. And in showing your birds, it is a lot about timing & conditioning.

Maybe ROy will chime in here and help out.​
 
but Roy always says anything hatched in May is no good --

Roy says anything born, hatched in May -- including dogs, horses, chickens -- any animal (heck probably people (LOL) - jus joking about the people -- Roy will tell you . . .​
 
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Thanks for this info.

Yes, hens with the ability to keep laying well into and past the third year would be good to keep breeding with. Hopefully you sell your hatching eggs because these would be ones I would want to buy if I were in the market for any right now. Plus, each successive year they lay better. This is encouraging news and I would suppose that this experience should be possible with some other heritage breeds. Three year olds laying 4 eggs/week (shorter season as you mentioned) is impressive. Of course, to replicate these results, beyond a bunch of other variables, one would have to remember that you free-range them.
 
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