I' m not Charlie, but ....
'Jubilee' is not a colour description per se but the name given to the tricolor phenotype in the Orpington. The 'Jubilee' refers to the Diamond (60th) Jubilee of Queen Victoria, in whose honour the breed was named as it was first shown in that year, I think 1897...
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Yes, the neck hackles on the one on the right, Hobnob, are way too dark. She is definitely not standard (going by the German standard, there is no standard in the British Isles, curiously enough), her 'fleurs' are too small and too few. I bred her and kept her more out of genetic...
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I'm in Ireland, Kathy. Sorry. I'd truly love to share these birds but it's illegal to send eggs, never mind birds, across the pond without a Mount Everest of paperwork, vet certs, cost, quarantine and what not. But it looks like 'wilds of pa' is well on his/her? way to creating them...
Don't get me wrong. I love your project and your dedication. And I have visited your website a good few times for new pics. Very exciting.
What do you make of these two?
The one on the right, mated back to her father, yielded 3 boys, two much like Dad, one dark mahogany like a Speckled...
@ wilds of pa
I know there are differences in ground colour (I have lighter and darker birds here), but I think - actually I am very sure - that these names (Diamond Jubilee vs. Jubilee) are the result of some misunderstanding between Jane and the German breeder she visited. Lost in...
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@ArizonaDesertChicks, the dark hen looks fine. The more reddish ones are, well, too red. Their lacing is not well defined, the hackles have too much red, and the breast looks like its salmon-coloured with strong shafting.
@ all
Here's a link to the American Breed Standard...
I put up some pics in the Australian "Backyard Poultry" forum, adding to pictures from member 'coopslave' in a similar thread to this one:
http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7967875
I too am surprised at how light Bluehenhatchery.com's birds are. It looks nice in the rooster...
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If they look the part, the only way to tell is by test-breeding. You can do this by breeding the birds amongst each other but this may not necessarily be conclusive unless you can breed the resultant offspring together as well. The normal practice would be to cross them with a 'known...
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They are not the greatest of layers anyway, so if you are after plenty of eggs I'd say no.
I have a 4 1/2 year old Buff Orpington (named "Buffy the eggslayer"... what else) who would have never been a prolific layer from the word go (maybe 120 in Yr 1 and less thereafter) BUT, and...
You can get fairly dark eggs (often speckled) from Welsumers and Barnevelders but the darkest IMHO come from good French Marans.
See:
http://marans-club.chez-alice.fr/echllang.htm#echelle
I haven't seen Penedescena eggs but understand these are very dark as well.
chook