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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    Here is another example: I want to make Showgirls. So I go out and I buy a bunch of silkies. I can't find any turkens, so I just breed my silkies toward the showgirl standard. Do I have all the right genetics? Nope. So why should I then call my silkies "showgirls"? They are still 100% silkies...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    ocseramas, try not to be so angry. Your group is always so angry and hurling insults. This is why you have had 25 different club officers a week and constant new groups forming. I know you like pretending serama are show quality, I read your tag line. It is fun to play serama breeder. But the...
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    American serama thread!

    To answer the question, the differences between serama and kapan are such things as back length, back shape, neck shape, proportion of head to body (unique dwarfing gene not in kapan) and leg length (another gene not in kapan, but is foi\und in U.S. in Ohiki). Kapan are fairly small, can be...
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    American serama thread!

    All of the birds pictured are kapan. But they do look good enough for what they are. Rumor has it, some true serama are currently in the process of being imported, so maybe that will help.
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    I am unsure why the people breeding the kapans are so afraid of discussing the topic, revealling bird weights, etc. Are there no breeders of these birds with the genetics background to understand the issues? Do people just like pretending these are show birds? Is it easier than truly breeding...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    The UK did import some serama , true serama, direct from Malaysia. They do have all the ingredients. In the US, the few true serama did not proliferate and hence we are missing many pieces. The bird pictured above is a good serama-typed bird, yet the overall proportions are wrong. Still very...
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    American serama thread!

    She nearly froze to death. May or may not make it. Serama can be intolerant of the cold. Likely severe hypothermia, may have caused permanent damage. I doubt was Mareks (although serama are quite susceptible to it). I recommend all "serama" breeders do Mareks vaccinations on their chicks. If...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    There is another telling sign. Claims of good birds, but no matching photos and weights. Why are we not getting these birds in pictures and showing them if they are so nice? Pic after pic are of nice birds. But nice kapans.
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    Yes, kapan are in serama. But so are many other breeds. Do you have the Thai miniture hen, any katik? Can you bake a good cake with just flower and water? How many people here are producing "serama looking" birds that are under 300 grams and are consistently that size and able to reproduce? Why...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    As I have said, I got this information from the exporters, importers, Malaysian breeders, other breeders over seas and some of the best U.S. breeders of serama. The different types you are talking about was a distortion of the truth used early on by an importer to explain why the imported birds...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    I am going to repeat this because it is not flaming so should not be censored. Demonstrative of the missing knowledge on seramas are club officials that are unaware of what a kapan was. He asked me what one was in the other thread. This isn't flaming, it is just information that goes to show...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    The serama is short bodied, much smaller and has the body much smaller in proportion to the head. The body shape is naturally an "S" curve and the birds display this very upright, head back position without being posed. Temperment of the true serama is very docile, with very much an absense of...
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    I am trying to bring this away from the other thread, so I will post this here... On the other thread, the ASA California rep asked me what a kapan was. This is demonstrative of the missing knowledge I am talking about. edited by staff
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    Serama or Kapan? Let's discuss!

    There are plenty of points of view on the subject. No one should feel insulted by that. It is meant to better what we have for genetics in the U.S. More serama, true serama, are likely to make their way here in the not too distant future. Will they replace, augment, or coexist with current...
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    American serama thread!

    I started a seperate thread about real serama vs the kapans we have now for those who would be interested in truly fixing this breed.
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