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if you put a pic of the living birds and deads birds up it will help

i kept mine in for 2 weeks and there was some losses and some stayed it depends how old they are aswell

nice birds :)

thanks everyone im going to bring a fancier over and see what he says how many i can fit in my loft when it is built

i wish i could put something on the roof but you need a permit for your "shed" to be a certain height i was not going to have any more that 5 breeding pairs :) and maybe a small team of 20

haha okay anyway :)

theres alot of people here that say quality over quantity and most dont have lofts any bigger than mine and all of them said i can race out of that loft but only young birds

my racing loft is going to have 3 sections one with nest boxes and perches another with perches i know some people who have no sections atall and are doing well around here im going to leave cocks in the nest box bit the the hens in the perches then when breeding seasons come around i will open...

loft flying is just letting them out to have a fly around :)

okay thanks hokum im going to race with 38 birds then :) im going to race know instead

what do you plan to do ? show,race,utility or just for fun ?

well if there show pigeons not really but for the likes of tumblers rollers and racers its better to loft fly them

what about cubic

what about height ?

in a 6x8x6 foot loft pigeons :)

how many could it hold ???

you could have a 2 section kit box with 40 birds in it if you want to go smaller you can have a smaller kit box with one section or have a loft which is like a kit but more like a shed then you could race out of it or keep pigeons for the sake of it or you could also fly rollers and tumblers :)

i know some people who drown them or give them chemicals to cull the bird what does everyone think of that ? bad i think

it cost a fortune to call from ireland to america so i might just see were other fanciers get there stuff its really far the one that is near to me :) thanks anyways

do they ship to ireland :)