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You're welcome. I'm working with Orpingtons, but not the English type.

Example of a female specific partridge pattern.

I couldn't tell it was the same bird.

Orpingtons usually have beefy legs with both genders. What makes you think you have a boy?

Female specific pattern. I believe they're female, & they're not Crele. They're partridge. I see no barring, unless they're someone's project birds.