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No argument here. These are the facts. I'm just saying that lack of FDA approval is NOT synonymous with efficacy.

I would not say "not officially." There is plenty of research before and after Covid showing efficacy of Ivermectin against a variety of viruses including but not limited to Avian Influenza. The following can be stated: 1. Ivermectin is not approved by the FDA and CDC for OFF LABEL use of...

I think eventually you are going to want them outside...both for your health and theirs. Being in the south, your weather is similar to mine. Chicken poo gets very stinky in the southern heat and tends to draw a lot of flies.... You don't want that in your garage, trust me! I think you will...

Great ideas! If I end up adding a covered run, I'm also going to try to maximize vertical space and lots of places to break visual contact so they can get away from bullies, if needed. Hopefully I won't have to resort to these measures.... :fl It hasn't made it to Arkansas yet but I'm sure...

I agree...it's just senseless to not be making a concerted effort to find a treatment when it is causing this type of economic damage. And this isn't the first time, right? People who say that the industry doesn't care because they just claim it against insurance don't realize the full weight...

Yeah, I was looking at the Iowa HPAI map this morning and saw how McMurray's and Hoovers literally have it at their doorstep. I can't imagine the stress they must be under. I've decided if cases start popping up in Arkansas, I will build a small covered run off the coop inside my big run. I...

Just saw that a big farm in Iowa has to cull over 5 million birds. :barnie I wonder if McMurray's is affected?

I know this topic is very sensitive and political... And not totally relevant to Avian Influenza... So I won't delve into that subject further except to say I have been involved in conversations starting in January 2020 from a national security level and don't believe what comes out in media...

Yes, you are absolutely right... When I started this thread, I was wondering whether Pour-on Ivermectin or something else could be used as a preventative or a therapeutic treatment. After talking with people on this thread and at the University, my goal has shifted to finding out if anyone is...

Are any of those as cheap as Ivermectin? My daughter came down with Type A Influenza this past week. Instead of prescribing Tamiflu, they prescribed a "new" medication called Xofluza. Guess how much it costs? $100! My point is that if the treatment is more expensive than the cost to cull...

My contact said that AI has a 95% mortality rate in birds. Once they get it, they are almost certainly done for.... All the more reason why the industry would support a treatment if it was cost effective.

I just got off the phone with someone who works in poultry research. He said that, to his knowledge, it has NOT been tested. He said that it would require a Level 3 biolab to do this kind of testing with AI. There is a lab in Georgia which is doing some testing in regards to AI but he isn't...

Do you know if it has even been tested against Avian Influenza? As I mentioned above, I realize that the viruses it has shown effective against are NOT AI but I'm betting it has never been tested (in chickens specifically). That could mean it COULD be effective and just hasn't been tested. Or...

That's actually not true about Ivermectin. It has shown protection against many viruses - West Nile, SARS-CoV-2, and others: Naturally, these are all different viruses and not necessarily AI.... But it shows promise, right? Better than doing nothing?

I was just reading an article this morning that said avian flu has now spread to 12 states! Dept of Ag is looking at culling 2.75 million birds, both backyard flocks and commercial flocks. 🙁 Naturally I am concerned.... Other than biosecurity, is anyone doing anything else to protect their...