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When do the pointy saddle feathers show? or are they there in the first lot of feathers they grow

So its a similar question to how long is a peice of string? Oh well, the longer he doesnt crow the more I can pretend its a she.

on average. I think i have one or two roos in my bunch but im not sure, so figured Id just wait for some crowing, they are around 10 weeks at the moment. (sussex x orph-leghorn) Also roos do they eat first or let the girls eat first? The one Im sure is a roo always gets to the food first then...