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mom'sfolly : Not to start a religious war but at the same time the Aztecs were offering sacrifices to their gods, Christians in Europe were putting thousands of non-believers to torture and death. Witch burnings in Europe reached the hundreds of thousands. When you start comparing killings...

mom'sfolly : Stonehenge also required organized labor and shipping stone a fair distance. The anceint Egytians and Chinese had well-developed bureaucracies, and the Chinese system was merit based, with civil service exams. Calendars of many different types were invented by pagans of all sorts...

Quote: Different calendars, how about saying about the time of the winter solstice? I'm not sure I understand your post. The solstice itself is on the 21st or 22nd, but the increasing length of the day was first noticed on the 25th, so pagans celebrated that as the "rebirth of the sun."

mom'sfolly : Actually, the Renaissance was the when science really took off in Europe. It was a revival of art, culture and science, lost during the middle ages. It was based on the pagan ideas of Rome and Greece, and preserved largely by the Eastern Church and Islam. Arguable, science was...

Random interesting fact, Christmas was placed on December 25th to make it more relevant to Roman culture. The Romans celebrated the 25th as the rebirth of the sun, and Christians changed it to celebrate the birth of the Son. I'm a Christian, so I find this thread quite fascinating, and would...

Quote: *Stares blankly* Santa Claus is based on the actual Saint Nick, but was popularized in the mid-1800's by an atheist.

Quote: Erm... Not trying to start a huge debate here, but I don't recall any pagan civilization that was matriarchal. Romans, Babylonians, Greeks, etc., all were patriarchal.