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  1. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Quote: "I guess the next step is trying... <snip> 'll see what I can do"??? I can scarcely believe I am having to tell this to a professional trainer and horseman of 20 years (how many of them as a grownup, eh?)... ... but, the usual way to produce warm washwater for your horses is to leave...
  2. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Quote: So with your 20 years experience as an internationally competitor and trainer and all that, and having also (according to https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=285746&p=1 ) having trained/ridden "Camels, elephants, zebra, horses, donkeys, mules, reindeer, cows off the...
  3. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    In training the idea is to stop *before* they're sore or brainfried Mind, I know there is a school of thought that says it is okay to push a horse past his limits, so as to vividly see what they are, *when trying it out to decide if you'll buy it*. I don't happen to agree with that school of...
  4. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Quote: Oh. Bummer. That kind of changes things. He may well be forging just because his feet are so long; but you'd want to see how he goes properly-trimmed to be sure. Balky when riding and sore afterwards is a big concern though. If he were ok (riding and afterwards) with a saddle, when...
  5. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Now that is much more what a 2.5 yr old horse should look like, development-wise (Compared to previous ones of that general age you've posted about). If you want to buy one of the horses you've posted about, I think this should for sure be the one as long as his temperament and soundness are...
  6. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Hum, those really look rather like permanent teeth to me. Which would make him 4ish. But I would want to see the rest of the mouth (what the grinding surfaces of those front teeth look like, and see what molars have come in) to be sure. If he is 4ish he is a very malnourished 4ish, which tends...
  7. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    If the costs of keeping the horse is a big factor, I would SERIOUSLY suggest continuing to look (not even bothering going back to reevaluate the pinto's soundness), because I really betcha that if you start riding him anytime soon, it will not be long before unfixable problems start popping up...
  8. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Yah, I'd take mange over sweet itch too (provided I had an area to quarantine), not that it's a choice you generally get to make LOL To me, the QH is better built with fewer big structural weaknesses than the pinto, plus he's not got sweet itch, and I would not be riding EITHER of them for at...
  9. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Can I ask, when you say "ride out", what do you mean? I ask because some peoples' idea of a trail ride is half an hour and they're pooped, some peoples' is 1-2 hrs of mostly walk and trot, other peoples' is 1-2 hours of fast trot and canter, and others' is "five hours and pack a lunch in case we...
  10. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    I know what Hound is saying about the short/low-set neck with the poor tie-in to the wither... and certainly it is not what you'd ideally want... but I have to say that I have worked with a huge number of horses, mainly TBs and appendix QHs, with that sort of conformation and it is not normally...
  11. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Meh, "the halter look" (depending on exactly what halter look you mean) does not necessarily make a good riding animal, um, at all. This one's stifles and hocks are built pretty straight (not a good thing); I'd be happier if he had more bone and foot for the size his body will eventually bulk...
  12. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Sweet itch would be a real issue for me -- the horses I've known with it have been chronic high-maintenance mgmt problems and made rather miserable by it with no really good full *solution* to the problem -- but, enh, there are also *worse* things in life I suppose. Depends whether you're...
  13. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Oh my. On the one hand, I feel bad for the horse and it would sure be nice for someone to take him in and give him some groceries and care. On the other hand, he has several real red flags about soundness issues even APART from his feet, and his feet look to me like you'd have a...
  14. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    I can't speak for other people but what I'm saying is not from "what I've been told" or "raised believing". It's from, I'm 45 now and have been around horses quite a lot since age 9 (sometimes professionally, always a *lot*, up until the past 7 years or so when I had kids and brought my own...
  15. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    A 3 year old is much much more in line with what you want to do (even if you "wouldn't canter for several months yet") than the yearling, IMHO. As far as which if either to buy... it seems to me it depends on a) temperament, which we can't assess from photos, and b) conformation as it relates...
  16. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    Quote: Perhaps you've misunderstood -- we're not excited about the idea of "riding him out" at 18 months or two years, EITHER. Of course it's your decision, but, you did *ask* Good luck whatever you decide, Pat
  17. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    It's just that people with as much experience as you're describing usually don't ask random chicken-site folks for advice about horses, especially from photos where you can't really *see* the horse well *anyhow* But, there;s a first time for everything I guess. If your concern is that he's not...
  18. patandchickens

    What do you guys think of these colts? Pics on page 3,6,7,8 & 12

    It's pretty hard to tell how he's actually built without a proper side view conformation-type shot. But, nothing leaps out as being obviously scary about him. That type of QH is not my personal favorite for athleticism but it just depends what you want to do and what your personal tastes are and...
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