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  1. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    You are correct. Some may even look just like daddy. White in Cochins is a recessive gene. Recessive white doesn't just act on black pigment, like dominant white does. Recessive white produces an entirely white bird, regardless of what other pattern/color genes may be present. You may get some...
  2. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    That guy is Splash. And not a laced anything. He's got the wrong pattern genes. That guy is based on extended black with leakage. Your Marans cross hen is not blue. Can't be her father.
  3. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    The easiest way to know if the rooster is Wheaten or Copper is to see what his down was as a chick. Wheaten chicks are cream colored. Copper chicks are black. In any case, the rooster is where the mahogany came from. Odd, since it's not typical in most Marans varieties.
  4. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Looks like she is also the source of the Dark Brown. It's definitely a red/gold dilute gene at play from her.
  5. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Can't tell from that photo if he's Blue Copper or Blue Wheaten. I'm trying to figure out where the Mahogany came from and where the DB gene came from to allow so much mahogany bleed through in the chest.
  6. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Could you post pics of your Marans cross hen and the Easter Egger?
  7. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    N Blue Wheaten, what breed? And how sure of that coloration are you? He's got one Marans parent for sure, with the feathered legs and white skin. Could be some sort of dilute gene that is causing the yellow hackle and saddle feathers. Definitely has a Mahogany gene, probably also has a dark...
  8. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Blue would be the one exception, since it's a dominant dilute for black. Recessive white is a 'modifier' for black.
  9. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Cochins SHOULD be recessive white, however, when it comes to hatchery stock there are no sure things. Regardless, recessive white will throw mostly solid black.
  10. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Each variety was derived from different lineage, but selected to be the same in terms of conformation. Technically, each variety of any breed, is a separate breed. But with chickens, breed is not solely determined by parentage. If an individual meets the breed standard for a particular breed...
  11. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Alright, I've got a bit of a head scratcher. This little girl is 6 weeks old. She was solid chocolate brown. I have never hatched a chick like her before. Clearly, she's not chocolate. Was her down color, and current coloration due to Mahogany? Is it the Melanized gene? Could it be Dark Brown...
  12. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Starting to look like a silver partridge type coloring. If that's the case, it's very likely a sexlinked male.
  13. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Same gene. And they aren't blue/splash underneath. They are blue/splash in addition. Solid black birds are gold or silver, like any other bird, it's just that the extended black gene covers it all up and you can't see it. Imagine a solid Blue bird. Then swap out that extended black gene for the...
  14. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    The thing with the blue dilute gene is that it doesn't need solid black to express. It will affect ANY black pigment, regardless. Solid Blue and solid Splash have the same dilute genes at work that Blue Wheaten or Blue Laced Red. Color genetics can be broken down into four different parts...
  15. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    I think you missed the concept completely. Try to follow me on this. Splash is two copies of Blue dilute gene. Blue dilutes black. One blue gene dilutes black to shades of grey. Two copies dilutes black even more, producing white/pale grey with darker flecks. The effects of the Blue gene are not...
  16. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Simple. The hen had a single extended black gene, making her Black. She also had two copies of the Blue dilute gene. Two blue genes makes a black bird Splash.
  17. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Feathered legs should be dominant.
  18. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    The hen was not recessive black, no such thing. But extended black is very dominant and only requires one copy to produce an entirely black bird. You can never be certain of what else is lurking under that black (or white) coloring.
  19. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    Yes, lacing will likely disappear. Some birds may have some gold/red leakage or patterning, but can't really say for sure because that recessive white and extended black can hide quite a lot.
  20. junebuggena

    Color genetics thread.

    The rose comb of the Wyandotte is dominant over the single comb of the Rocks.
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