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yeah, i understood, i was referring to what duck keeper said about the hole punching... *cringe* i had a hard enough time docking my rotty's pups tails, but at leats i know their nerves arent that good right after they come out. couldnt imaging punching a hole in all those little veins, i mean...

hole punching sounds horrible, i couldnt imagine doing that to one of my babies! i saw this ladies ducks a while back, one of them had completely cut the web from one of its toes...it just kind of rolled up towards the middle toe. it had to have stepped on something, her place was a disaster...