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Quote: Claiming the Second Amendment is somehow outdated, and claiming that the Second Amendment, as affirmed by the Supreme Court many times is still up to amateur misinterpretation is not posting from any point of logic, as numerous other posters here have pointed out. You may choose to...

Quote: How 'bout when Bush and Cheney did it?

Quote: Actually Buster was very logical in all his postings. He was well thought out and kept it very polite and to the point. Most of the responses to his post were not. Claiming the Second Amendment is somehow outdated, and claiming that the Second Amendment, as affirmed by the Supreme...

Well, I can't decide if this thread is going in circles or spiraling out of control far from the intent of the OP. Folks are getting carried away with their pontificating, so this is my last post on the subject. People should have the right to own guns. People in this country will always be...

Quote: Well, actually, no it isn't. If you go back and read the OP, it is supposed to be about a meeting of minds between polar opposites on the issue. I have made an effort to do that, but haven't seen a whole lot of effort coming from the other side of the issue. Makes me think "meeting of...

Quote: Not that it matters, of course. Once a discussion succumbs to Gadwin's Law, all rational discourse is pretty much done anyway. For those who dont know: Godwin's Law: (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation coined by Mike Godwin in 1990, and which...

Quote: Right, because it is probably not who you think it was.

Quote: No, but comparisons between the current government and Nazi Germany are just plain flat out silly. If y'all want to get partisan in this thread, fine. I'm very good at that. I have some strong opinions and facts about the previous administration where it comes to personal rights. But...

Quote: Not only did Hitler take away guns, he registered his people. He also introduced socialized health care. We are about to require the mandatory registration of every citizen in America under health care reform, AND require access to full financial information. Hmmmmmmmmmm All of our...

Quote: Right. Just as you can still own a restricted gun. You will just pay a fine or do a little jail time for the violation. [And here I thought we were done, you and I.] What I was done with is you and another slamming conservatives for fun, instead of discussing the thread topic. WRONG...

Quote: Exactly. You get my point perfectly. A reasonable restriction on a right does not deny that right. I can still hold my rally, just not outside your window at 2 AM. I also can't slander, libel, use copyrighted material without permission outside of fair use, or blab military secrets...

Quote: Interesting distinction. So are you saying there aren't laws in your community that would prevent me from practicing my free speech rights in this case? Yes there are local laws to keep your bull horn from my window. its called Trespassing and Disturbing the Peace. which are crimes...

Quote: Exactly. You get my point perfectly. A reasonable restriction on a right does not deny that right. I can still hold my rally, just not outside your window at 2 AM. I also can't slander, libel, use copyrighted material without permission outside of fair use, or blab military secrets.

Quote: And that is probably the first time the word "CHICKEN" has been mentioned in the entire thread, which would certainly seem to add fuel to greathorse's point.

Quote: When I'm allowed to stand outside your bedroom window and hold a rally at 2:00 in the morning with my bull horn practicing my First Amendment right to free speech, I will agree with you there can be no reasonable restrictions on my constitutional rights. Till then, I remain unconvinced...

Quote: When I'm allowed to stand outside your bedroom window and hold a rally at 2:00 in the morning with my bull horn practicing my First Amendment right to free speech, I will agree with you there can be no reasonable restrictions on my constitutional rights. Till then, I remain unconvinced.

Quote: Ummm... I think you mean Second Amendment. But who's counting? And when you join the State militia, you let me know. Why would you need to know? It has nothing to do with the Second Amendment - thankfully that has been reinforced time and time again, Well, by the NRA perhaps. But...

Quote: See, that's the funny thing. I'm not afraid to stand up for myself. I'm not at all a big guy, and am no longer young, yet I don't feel I need a gun to defend myself. My chickens, yes. But myself? No. No offense to those who feel you must carry a gun to feel safe or to defend yourself...

Quote: Ah. Now we are getting somewhere. So since I have illustrated why the Federal government will never in our lifetime ban guns or even seriously address much needed gun control, we are down to state and local control of the issue. Let me say I agree with you. This should be in the hands...

Quote: Of course not, although lord knows I've tried.