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Quote: Really??? I judge 4H and FFA shows. I have never judged based on showmanship except for those who WANT to enter in the showmanship classes. Ok, perhaps I should qualify what I said by saying that showmanship is required HERE. I assumed it was the same for everywhere....my mistake...

4H is about showmanship and how he handles the bird. I would let him show the calmest bird, regardless of what it looks like. If you want to show conformation, then you need to start worrying about standards, etc. Now, most 4H shows HAVE conformation classes, but they are not required...