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The invitation is coming out in the next Newsletter, but anyone in driving distance to Knoxville TN is invited the first weekend in December for a Cream Legbar Special Meet at the Dixie Classic! Hopefully there will be birds shown by 4H kids and barring any unforeseen complications I will be...

Yes, I have this right next to my coop and it is life sized so it's easy to compare. I need to do another with the hens legs more centered, but they're helpful to me even imperfect.

I could totally be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the Fancy Fowl picture is of birds belonging to Sue Hammon, who got her first birds from David Applegarth :) I really like their shapes, other than the wonky combs- tiny points cut, so not a huge deal in showing.. Are one of these the pic you...

I think the Hammon's rooster, from 30 years ago, has the best type in regard to shape only, with the younger first cockerel coming in second. He just needs a slightly deeper top line, which could grow in, and slightly lower tail set. They're both pretty close to the logo shape.

No, not in chickens, but you hit the nail on the head. If you need to outsource for genetic diversity, size, type, etc I would cross with a large show version of a brown Leghorn because the genetics will be the closest. It will take you about 5 generations to lock in the cream, cresting...

Great question. No, ultimately as long as the bird looks like the description of the standard it can be shown as that bird. We don't have pedigrees like horses, dogs, etc. There was actually a trick played on judges a few years ago when a bird of mixed parentage was shown as something else, and...

I am totally with you 1muttsfan!

This is a test year, so only 20ish this year ( I'm done incubating, but there are a few under a broody). But hopefully some of the eggs sent to 4H groups will hatch and I'd love to see how they grow out too. Next year I'm hoping to hatch 100. It has been a cockerel heavy year, but I am pleased...

P.S. I do not have two lines for pullets/cockerels and this year's growers look like some will best their parents. Though some breeders may prefer that method, I don't think we have to have two lines for show birds.

Does look like a cool course! More thoughts on cream... Please excuse my repetitiveness, but I think the issue is not that cream is not recessive, it is, but that the gold we're dealing with is a mutant dominant gene. When that mutant dominant gene is used in conjunction with wild type pattern...

Yes, the Shape sections are based on the PCGB just like the Color sections. Or were you asking the Crele group about a different standard?

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Are you talking about Incomplete Autosomal Dominant Inheritance? Wild type pattern in conjunction with a recessive color gene when paired with a dominant or mutant color can produce offspring with a color somewhere between the two. ie. Cream plus gold can equal pale gold. Tony talked about that...

Hello everyone! I am not here to discuss the alternative varieties, but to hopefully help answer some questions and requests about the cream variety. I hope you all gave a great weekend! Best wishes! @ sol2go, here is an older pic of Jack since you "called" me LOL ( BYC sends an email when my...

Best wishes with your triathlon Mr. C! A friend of ours finished his second Ironman a couple of months ago. All of those races are certainly a real accomplishment in endurance and training!

They're fine. There are some differences in down darkness mostly based on whether the bird has dark or light barring genes, or a combination of the two. But those chicks are definitely not sport whites which are lighter and more yellow.

There still some in random parts of the world, and they are literally the brothers and sisters of F1-F3 Gold Legbars. The first were discarded as failures when Punnett was working on the Gold Legbar variety. Perhaps it was even Pease who thought the Silver birds were pretty and saved them LOL!

Close. The Gold Legbar is definitely an integral part of the creation of the cream variety of Legbar. The Gold Legbar is simply the offspring of a series of crosses between Dutch Brown Leghorns and PBR. But the Cream Legbar came about by later experiments performed by professors Punnett and...

The discussion one is at the start of the original SOP thread. The In Depth series was presented, in part, by Curtis at the q2 and q3 meetings in 2014. It will be in booklet form, but I need to do some editing to make it a complete work instead of a series. I thought Curtis' slide shows were...

Chicken pickin, I agree with your balance analysis of your birds heads. Based on Head Points (Steup) a balanced head had the same length from the bottom of the comb to the top of the wattles, as the tip of the beak to the front of the earlobes. That's not to say that your first pullet is crow...