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I can believe that. Birds are always going after the dog or cat food. It's the first place my chickens head to when let out in the morning. Straight to the dog bowl to see what is left over. Mold is awful this year. I think it has causes more sickness in birds than people realize. I was...

True, the virus can mutate at any time. I never said it couldn't happen in a small backyard flock. I said the chances were slim. The higher the density of birds, the greater chance the virus has of replicating. You want to explain why this country has gone for years and years with low path...

Mutation is very unlikely to happen in a backyard flock is what I have read. The numbers are not there. Mutation is much more likely to happen in the commercial flocks where there are thousands of birds. That and money in the farmers pocket is the reason they depopulate those flocks.

It's not about us, it's about the commercial industry and the money. That's it. Their interest in us only extends to how our hobby may affect the commercial industry. They care not a whit about preserving the "backyard flock".

I think they likely all fell out of the nest. That's why you are seeing so many. Do they all look the same? And this type of bird flu poses no threat to humans. Chickens are safe to eat, eggs are safe to eat. Symptoms of bird flu resemble many other illnesses birds can get, so the only way...

I dont' think it is. I think it's carried on the outside. If inside, the chick likely would expire early. And if inside, what's the risk to a farm then?

Glad I hatch my own. I wonder if this was a large commercial operation or hatchery? Hmmm...who operates in Iowa I wonder. It's quite concerning. 75% of the country...that's huge.

A good reason to dip your eggs in a sanitizing solution before incubating I would think. I know it doesn't harm hatch rates at all if done properly. I know there are disinfectants out there that kill many viruses, even AI.

I'm sure it's not the cause of everything horrible in the world, but in this instance, I think the battery farms ARE the source of the HIGHLY pathogenic strains of the bird flu. They would never admit to such a thing though. But there is a reason they kill everything on the farm when it is...

I really think that's a big part of it right there. That and lack of genetic diversity. After all, they are carefully bred for laying and weight gain ability.

That's just it. It will never come to an end. Face it. It's here to stay. You are going to have to keep birds on lockdown the rest of your life. Obviously, birds can build resistance to this or there would be no "carriers". So, I see only two choices. Resistance or biodomes for backyard...

Well I would feel a bit better about attending shows or swaps if there wasn't waterfowl or other species present. Maybe separate events for each?

Well, I know a state vet isn't looking for this kind of suggestion, but, BYC members might want to give it a try so... I'm going to start adding the Master Tonic veggies to my birds mash. I made a batch of it a year ago and chopped up all the veggies in a food processor after straining the...

Hmmm...didn't know that about mayo, that it is made from raw egg. I knew eggs were used, but that's about it. Watery egg whites are a sign of IB. It could be signs for other disease too, but IB is the most known.

Maybe they should just do burials at sea.

I believe the truth is if they find one bird, even one carrying the low path AI, then all are culled. Low path AI may not even cause symptoms in your birds.

Well, the origin is birds. It's how it's being spread they haven't figured out. Or why commercial operations seem so susceptible. I find it interesting that all these experts never mention genetics in any of their theories. Must be something corporations do not want to explore. The creation...

Ugh...roaches. Makes me shudder. Especially large numbers of them.

Well, flies and mosquitos may be a possibility? I don't know how well commerical operations keep them out. I imagine it's hard to keep every mouse out too. Genetic diversity. I believe that is why commercial flocks are so prone to getting sickened by the disease. Commerical flocks very...

I would not doubt for a second that mutations in the bird flu originated in commercial operations. A link I posted a long time back in this thread that was written almost a decade ago suggested as such. Some thought it wasn't relative since the article was so old. Well, the bird flu is old...