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Quote: Now that puts all this into perspective, doesn't it?

You guys are really getting worked up - A cat fell through a not so sturdy part of a pen. Everything else has been stuff that didn't happen. Look, until it's illegal to have cats roam, people are going to let cats roam. Personally, if I had a cat, i'd build it one of those yard/sunrooms...

Quote: I agree, but I will add that this incident shows that you cannot count on people being responsible, and besides people's roaming pets, there are other predators that don't respect property lines that will take advantage of any weakness in your defenses. Should people keep thier pets...

Quote: Actually, there is a lot of evidence that dogs did this also - by scavenging, less afraid dogs got more food, were more sucessfull, each generation more and more wolf-dogs were friendlier, less afraid of people, they became integrated with people and then we selectively bred them.

Quote: I know my chickens kill a lot of small animals, including birds - they have just about wiped out the once numerous fence lizards. Maybe its irresponsible to free range?

Quote: I think this study lumps feral and indoor/outdoor cats into one. I think it's basically saying ALL CATS that are outside cause this much damage. I'm still not convinced that an indoor/outdoor cat can do more damage than a feral cat. Sorry guys. You're gobo me studies that say cats do...

Quote: i also agree on the three birds a day thing. my cats are too fat and lazy to catch anything. the only time theyve ever brought me a kill happened to be a day after i had consecutively lost three of my birds in a week. They left this dead bird on the floor next to my bed and it was there...