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Quote: There are nor Africans nor Chinas I raise both... Here is my Brown Chinese male.. And here are my Africans (Excuse the Nene who thinks she is an African LOL)

Quote: I have the standard right in front of me... Old Gander.......22lbs Young Gander..18lbs Old Goose.......18lbs Young Goose..15lbs So technically if you seen 50lb Africans at a Show that werent DQed they need new Judges.

Quote: Production Africans do not get that big, you need to look at the 'hatchery' stock to see what this person has. The ones you are talking about are referred to as dewlap Africans. When I show Africans we call them Africans not Dewlap Africans... the ones most people have are Production...